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Converted to disc brakes in the front factory drum in rear now I have low brakes seem to stop the car okay. It just makes me a little uneasy that the pedal goes that close to the floor. Being a retired ASE certified mechanic I cannot figure this one out. I would assume that different bore sizes in the master cylinder would have an effect on how much fluid reaches the disc in front, therefore maybe creating a low pedal. Also the brake pin is in the correct hole on the pedal. Any thoughts are welcome in any help provided would be appreciated.
 

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Converted to disc brakes in the front factory drum in rear now I have low brakes seem to stop the car okay. It just makes me a little uneasy that the pedal goes that close to the floor. Being a retired ASE certified mechanic I cannot figure this one out. I would assume that different bore sizes in the master cylinder would have an effect on how much fluid reaches the disc in front, therefore maybe creating a low pedal. Also the brake pin is in the correct hole on the pedal. Any thoughts are welcome in any help provided would be appreciated.
We're covering this very topic, in another thread.

But you're absolutely right! If you put single piston calipers on the front, without changing the master, then you're (likely) not getting enough volume!

A master cylinder from the drums is only desigende to move minimal fluid to four wheel cylinders. Now you have two giant calipers! That's why your pedal moves so/ too far.
 

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We're covering this very topic, in another thread.

But you're absolutely right! If you put single piston calipers on the front, without changing the master, then you're (likely) not getting enough volume!

A master cylinder from the drums is only desigende to move minimal fluid to four wheel cylinders. Now you have two giant calipers! That's why your pedal moves so/ too far.
Now I have a question about disk brake conversion. My 66 has already been converted to a dual MC and valve. I just purchased the right stuff front disk conversion kit without a new MC. Do you think I will have the same issue?
 

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We're covering this very topic, in another thread.

But you're absolutely right! If you put single piston calipers on the front, without changing the master, then you're (likely) not getting enough volume!

A master cylinder from the drums is only desigende to move minimal fluid to four wheel cylinders. Now you have two giant calipers! That's why your pedal moves so/ too far.
New double chamber master cylinder with booster
 

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Converted to disc brakes in the front factory drum in rear now I have low brakes seem to stop the car okay. It just makes me a little uneasy that the pedal goes that close to the floor. Being a retired ASE certified mechanic I cannot figure this one out. I would assume that different bore sizes in the master cylinder would have an effect on how much fluid reaches the disc in front, therefore maybe creating a low pedal. Also the brake pin is in the correct hole on the pedal. Any thoughts are welcome in any help provided would be appreciated.
Well, seeing you are an ASE certified mechanic and I'm just a backyard type, you know about checking the MASTER-CYLINDER PUSH ROD ADJUSTMENT, right?. But just in case your certification did not include this, It is found in the Service Manual you have on hand for your car, and is found here on Page 2 of this PDF, beginning under the heading of MASTER-CYLINDER PUSH ROD ADJUSTMENT.

Just sayin'. (y)

 

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Now I have a question about disk brake conversion. My 66 has already been converted to a dual MC and valve. I just purchased the right stuff front disk conversion kit without a new MC. Do you think I will have the same issue?
I would say to run the part number on your MC, and verify the bore size.

The mere presence of "calipers" doesnt necessitate the large bore MC, it's the count and size of the pistons in the caliper, that matter.

Look at it this way, a 300 cui V12, has more cylinders, but less volume than a 455 cui V8.

Likewise, Single piston calipers, with 2.5" pistons, would have more volume than dual piston calipers with 1" pistons.

As I mentioned earlier, it's probably a pain to get the part numbers for your calipers and MC, and then research the two to determine their volume... However... if you don't do this when building your brake system, then it's like buying a carb, without knowing how many cubic inches your engine is... and who would do that?

It's actually quite comical that no one would buy a 400 cfm carb for their 455, but no one sees an issue using the wrong MC to try and stop their car... and BTW, I've sure been guilty of it.

That being said, there's are enough people on the web who have already done what your doing, so I think you can likely skip the intense tech research, so long as you know what you have. If you're going to use the giant, single piston, 67-70 calipers, then a large bore is probably the ticket.

But at the end of the day, only you can do the math.
 

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