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Hmmm. 32K original miles, stored inside, no rust. So why so much replaced - may have been worth more as a true survivor. Undercoating scares me, not needed on a 32K car. Non-original air cleaner and decal. Assume engine/trans/clutch/carb all original and not rebuilt? Warranty on the driveline?
Thank you for posting here on the forum. Most of the people here have spent more than three decades of their life, endlessly toiling over Pontiac GTO's. They see things that no car buff would ever see, and rightly so.
I spent my life on the Jersey Shore and still live here. 53 years of salt water in the summer and road salt in the winter, working on Pontiac GTO's.
The car you listed is beautiful and no doubt it will fetch good money in this elevated market, because it will appeal to anyone who has spent their life wanting a GTO. That being said, the VAST majority of people who come in here looking to fulfill their life-long dream of owning a GTO, wouldnt know if it had a differential from a Hyundai ******. That's why they come here.
There is a very heavy trend of classic car dealerships, sweeping across the nation. We get to see these cars before they sell, and we also hear many of the horrors afterward. Nearly all of these listings have the same key phrases; barn find, rare, low mileage, rebuilt, restored... and surprisingly, in most cases, the pictures debunk the claims. And when they don't, then a visual inspection does.
Im a classic car dealer expert, and I've not yet met one whose intention was to nail accuracy. If that's your intention, then a better approach would be to come in here prior to a listing and ask for input. I can assure you that all of your customers will, prior to buying.
I do think that a lot of these guys under-value the cars and I do think that you'll get good money either way, whether it's justified or not. Originality seems less important to the new gen of buyers. Good look with it either way...
I hope you continue to post your cars in here for sale. We do get a LOT of people who want to buy... and those of us in here bored all day, get a real big kick out of the used car salesman pitch, so it's a win win!
Because mileage is irrelevant and the car is old.
A 64 year-old girl who only slept with one guy, still looks and feels like she's 64.
The control arm bushings, wheel cylinders, caliper seals, belts, hoses, body mounts, fuel lines, vacuum lines, and fuel pump diaphrahm are gone. The radiator and heater core are packed with scale and ready to fail. The engine sat in the four-season state of NY, filled with condensation in the summer, attracting moisture in the winter, and is filled with rust, which upon start up will go right to the bearings and piston rings. The timing cover seal is about as pliable as a frozen vice grip, and if you dont change it, it'll wear a groove in the harmonic balancer and cause a massive oil leak. The rear main seal is shot and will leak profusely. The grease in the wheel bearings is a hardened crust. The universals are rusted solid. The fuel tank is rusted inside. The brake lines are rusted.
None of these things would occur on a car with 30k miles on it, but they all will occur on a car that's 54 years old.
Despite reality TV popularizing "barn finds", they suck out loud, for all of the reasons that I listed... and no matter how good the Kardashians look, they're in the same desperate need of restoration, despite the fact that they have many new parts.
Your killing me Smalls! 😆
Just be glad he wasnt selling a 32 coupe
And before you go making assumptions, I can tell you that I spent 35 years inspecting and resolving consumer complaints, against used car dealers, for the government, in your neighborhood. I can recite the consumer fraud act, as it pertains to your listing, off the top of my head, so I'd think twice before I made any more false claims, in writing, and then publishing them.
Aside from cracking a joke or two, I was giving you very sincere and generous advice. Obviously, that was my mistake.
As for my being a genius, if you mean that the government certified me and then gave me a badge to go out and enforce the consumer fraud act, then yes, I am one, and thanks for noticing.
As a final demonstration of my professionalism, I'll say this, if you come here looking for help and advice, you'll get it, if you came here to pull used car stunts, I hope you brought your helmet.
As I said before, you may not care for my advice, but trust me on this, your customers are coming here before buying your cars, and they are absolutely taking my advice. And if you don't believe that, maybe read this recent thread.
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Hello All, New to the forum looking to be a frequent flyer here. Im chasing down a 69 GTO as a gift for my father. He sold his to send us kids to school and now it’s time to pay it back. I know enough about the cars that matching Vin, motor and trans is what makes them an appreciating...
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this is a forum, not ebay, which is a place for people to exchange opinions. putting your car for sale here opens you up to all of our EXPERT opinions on said car...good and bad.
I've reflected for a moment on your forum tone and conclude you may as well consider your advertisement here dead-in-the-water considering your combative and aggressive replies.
may want to check your own 'tude at the door. won't get you too far with the crew on here.
It's a shame, the guy has been a registered ebay member for more than 20 years, with perfect feedback, so all he really had to do was to clarify a few issues and maybe re-word a few things.
He asked in astonishment why he would ever bother to restore a car with 30k miles on it, and then following my post, he claimed that he did restore it.
Man, Im the most wild card, half cocked cowboy going. I make mistakes all day long, and when I do, I take responsibility and learn from them. I dont know why people get so offended by the truth.
He asked in astonishment why he would ever bother to restore a car with 30k miles on it, and then following my post, he claimed that he did restore it.
Man, Im the most wild card, half cocked cowboy going. I make mistakes all day long, and when I do, I take responsibility and learn from them. I dont know why people get so offended by the truth.
Ironically, I feel like I could really love you if you werent such an ass. Ive done nothing but give you good, basic advice. As I said, you couldve just corrected me, but as others mentioned, you came out swinging and insulting, with both arms.
Each reply you make to me, is devoid of any fact, and filled with insults, which is what children and girls do on FB. I openly admit that I could be wrong about your car, and I openly invite you to show me.
Why can't you do the same?
You're completely obsessed with claiming "I don't know you", while simultaneously insisting that you know me. Aint a human on Earth who'd say I have an ego, but I know at least six people who right now are thinking that you probably work for the post office.
And yes, I do know all about your automotive business. You registered with the government and got a business license, and when you do that, you waive your right to privacy and it becomes open public record.
Im not your enemy man... and you're barking up the wrong tree.
Don't forget, you're here because youre trying to sell a car. Im only here because Im pooing and playing with my phone.
Nice looking car. Air freshener sale?
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Hey I have ONE and it's a cool one..Black Ice but it's under the seat
Can you put Black Ice on your breathers when your engine heats up everyone benefits Do you have that 80,001 picture of the breather yet?.Hey I have ONE and it's a cool one..Black Ice but it's under the seat
For the record, I really like this 68. I would love to own it.
I have to say, it's gotta be refreshing. I'm used to getting in my car and having to check and be sure that my grandmother didnt leave her underpants in there.
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Ha good idea....locked and loaded
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