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I was talking with a friend that has an 07 Z06. He told me he has quit taking it to the track. He goes to Gainesville and they are giving him a real hard time about the car there.

Issue one is, they wan't him to have a blanket and a driveshaft loop. I guess the NHRA officials are under pressure, the stock Z06 is too fast and is capable of 10's and runs 11.49's and better with poor drivers. The car has the potential for a catastrophic clutch blowout, especially on the stock clutch, in severe use. The rule is 11.49 or quicker and you need the loop and blanket.

The second issue is the tracks are starting to enforce the 11.49 rule for roll cages. I always thought it was 10.99, but the rule is 11.49 and the NHRA is really enforcing that. Since C6 Z06's have the potential to run below 11.49 at Gainesville they require the roll cage. No exceptions, show up in a C6 Z06 and you better have a roll cage.

If you have a roll bar they are requiring a quick release harness with a crotch strap. Basically a 5 point harness system.

They are requiring a minimum of a fire jacket and requesting a fire suit. They are also enforcing the drive shaft loop on cars with DR's and slicks if they are below 13.99.

He also said they are going nuts on your helmet. If it isn't the right spec Snell rating your not driving. The M class of helmets for motorcycles don't cut it anymore.

He also has a Viper and they won't let hm run it without a roll cage.

Has me questioning the purchase of a Z06 now. If I do all those mods it will defiately take away from resale and the enjoyment I'd get on the street.

Anybody else track their modified GTO and can give some insight to what your experiencing? Anybody know of people with Z06's that have headed to a track? Is this just Gainesville and Orlando Speedworld, or is this the real deal everywhere?
 

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Wow that sucks, I've been browsing on the LS1GTO forum and there are so many GTO that are running low 11s without cages, as far as I can see. A couple of years ago one of my buddys put a 460 in a 91 mustang LX conv, he went 10s on the motor and went high 9s on spray with no cage :willy:, that was crazy.They never bothered him, this was at Atco raceway.
 

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That's what I'm wondering, if it's a Florida thing, or just these two local tracks, or if they are starting to crack down widespread.

I just did some checking on the Z06 forum. Several people complained about the rules and having to drive under them. The tracks let them run unless they run quicker than 11.49. Then they get the boot and have to wait a month or so to come back. They all seem to be in the southeast. But there's still people running low 11's with no cage or driveshaft loops at some tracks elsewhere.

If I have to put a cage, 5 point harnesses, a fire jacket in the Florida heat, a blanket, and a driveshaft loop into the car, that really would stop me from buying it.

When I ran my 11.501 in the C5 Z06, the NHRA official pulled me aside and told me to ease up. He then told me all this stuff that I should have if I didn't. Next run was an 11.85, I got the message.
 

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Fergyflyer and all else that are interested; here are the track rules for Infineon here in the Bay Area...The main track to drag your street ride...
 

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Thanks,

Infineon looks very similar to the stuff here in Florida. The question is, do they enforce it??

I'm seeing roll cage and 5 point harness under 11.99.

I'm seeing no cars with Independent Rear Axles faster than 10.99. DR's and you can get into the 10's pretty easily. DR's an intake and a tune and your deep into the 10's.

Explosion proof flywheel and clutch shield (Blanket)for cars faster than 11.99.

Drivers jacket under 11.99.

Driveshaft loop under 12.99.

That means the regular C6 has to have a driveshaft loop and a GTO with minor mods needs the driveshaft loop.

I was told that the NHRA officials were told to crack down on stock cars. I guess up until a year or two ago, you had to modify a car pretty heavily to get it to run what stock street cars are now running. Typically when you modify to race you build in the extra safety equipment as a package.

Most people plunking down 65-75,000 for a Z06 don't want to modify it in a way that kills resale, so this takes it out of the drag racing picture.

I asked a couple of people on the Vette forum and they all replied that they had modified their cars after getting hassled about the safety equipment. The safety focus started big time this year.
 

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From the few folks (about 4) that I have spoken to recently it's all inforced. I have not seen a local drag up close in a long time so I don't have first hand knowledge... Sounds like anything to avoid the potential litigation...:rofl:

Thanks,

Infineon looks very similar to the stuff here in Florida. The question is, do they enforce it??

I'm seeing roll cage and 5 point harness under 11.99.

I'm seeing no cars with Independent Rear Axles faster than 10.99. DR's and you can get into the 10's pretty easily. DR's an intake and a tune and your deep into the 10's.

Explosion proof flywheel and clutch shield (Blanket)for cars faster than 11.99.

Drivers jacket under 11.99.

Driveshaft loop under 12.99.

That means the regular C6 has to have a driveshaft loop and a GTO with minor mods needs the driveshaft loop.

I was told that the NHRA officials were told to crack down on stock cars. I guess up until a year or two ago, you had to modify a car pretty heavily to get it to run what stock street cars are now running. Typically when you modify to race you build in the extra safety equipment as a package.

Most people plunking down 65-75,000 for a Z06 don't want to modify it in a way that kills resale, so this takes it out of the drag racing picture.

I asked a couple of people on the Vette forum and they all replied that they had modified their cars after getting hassled about the safety equipment. The safety focus started big time this year.
 

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Here in Louisiana, the car races at No Problem Raceway, a NHRA sanctioned track. They strictly enforce the rules. I have 8 point roll bar and driveshaft safety loop and many other things required to run below 11.49. The car is good to 10.00. Since car has not been tracked on race tune and we believe it's going to be very low 10s or even very high 9s, car is scheduled next monday for conversion to full cage and lot of other welds and safety upgrades. In addition, car has to be fully inspected and driver needs health physical and a race license. If weather cooperates, we're going to the track this friday. If car hits 9.999????, they will tell us to boost down.

Full cage means bars along the roof, going through dashboard, X bar added to rear, and bar along the dashboard between the steeringwheel and dash going all the way from left to right. It's not pretty.

Pic of 8 point roll bar just after install
 

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Thanks, I was hoping you'd post here Steve.

Good luck on the 9's.

3 or 4 years ago, and this was back up in Ohio, if it was a street car, they kinda looked the other way. If you got into the 10's they would crack down on you, but running into the High 11's, as long as you were decently safe, they just let you run.

I guess times have changed and the liability is greater.
 

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Steve - do you take it on the street? Would hate to be a passanger in that Bad-Boy...:willy::willy:

Here in Louisiana, the car races at No Problem Raceway, a NHRA sanctioned track. They strictly enforce the rules. I have 8 point roll bar and driveshaft safety loop and many other things required to run below 11.49. The car is good to 10.00. Since car has not been tracked on race tune and we believe it's going to be very low 10s or even very high 9s, car is scheduled next monday for conversion to full cage and lot of other welds and safety upgrades. In addition, car has to be fully inspected and driver needs health physical and a race license. If weather cooperates, we're going to the track this friday. If car hits 9.999????, they will tell us to boost down.

Full cage means bars along the roof, going through dashboard, X bar added to rear, and bar along the dashboard between the steeringwheel and dash going all the way from left to right. It's not pretty.

Pic of 8 point roll bar just after install
 

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do you take it on the street? Would hate to be a passanger in that Bad-Boy
I only work 0.5 miles from the house. Car is streeted maybe 15 miles in a week. No street racing at all and it stays garaged mostly from friday night till monday morning.

My girlfriend is pretty cool about the tubular interior and 4 inch cowel hood. She gets to see treetops and the occasional light aircraft from the passenger side. In fact, think I have a pic that clearly demonstrates just how content she is with the mods

 

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You're CRAZZZY...:lol::cheers:lol:

I only work 0.5 miles from the house. Car is streeted maybe 15 miles in a week. No street racing at all and it stays garaged mostly from friday night till monday morning.

My girlfriend is pretty cool about the tubular interior and 4 inch cowel hood. She gets to see treetops and the occasional light aircraft from the passenger side. In fact, think I have a pic that clearly demonstrates just how content she is with the mods

 

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I finally got in touch with a guy that works at Gainesville. There have been several serious accidents with stock cars recently. Most of them have been Z06's, but there have been all types involved.

The NHRA sent memo's to the tracks, and I guess the member tracks get insurance through the NHRA in most cases, about safety and strictly enforcing the safety rules.


If you pull up with your Z06 or any other fast car and want to see what it will run, they make sure you have a helmet. Then they let you run. If you run better than 11.99, they make you aware of the rules and let you know that to continue running at their track, they need you to follow the rules. They are flexible to some extent too, if you run 3- 12.1-12.2's and then hit a 11.93 or so they let you go unless you make a habit of getting into the 11's.

In the Z06's case that means a driveshaft safety loop, a roll bar and 5 point harness, a scatter shield for your clutch, and a jacket.

They also will not let Z06's run with DR's or slicks unless the rear end has been modified. The cars with DR's or slicks get into the 10's and you can't have an IRS and run in the 10's. He said he thought there was an exception by modifying something, but he wasn't sure.

I guess it makes sense if people are getting hurt because they have too much power for the track. Imagine that, these same people are on the street with you and your family in a car that has too much power for them to handle on a strip let alone the street.
 

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Aren`t the seat belts only good for a couple years too?
That's what I was told. I would think very hard about gutting luxury vehicles like the GTO and Z06. I bought the cheapest, plainest mustanggt that I could find to heavily mod.
 

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That's what I was told. I would think very hard about gutting luxury vehicles like the GTO and Z06. I bought the cheapest, plainest mustanggt that I could find to heavily mod.
That's the exact thought going through my head right now. I need to make a decision and will probably end up with the fleet option. Get a Mustang for drag racing and mod the heck out of it, and wait to see if there is going to be a GTO, or maybe buy another C6 non-Z06 for the nice car. I'm cheap though and just hate to spend all that money for 2 vehicles.
 

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I completly understand having safety concerns and such rules for sanctioned events but the same appling to street class vehicles?

I guess what I don't get is when you sign your name to race and you read the fine print you are basically signing your life away. Even spectators usually have to sign a waiver of liability around here.
 
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