Bet me your new GTO :lol: and I'd be driving it right now Actually my high school sweetheart and I are pretty much best friends. But trust me when I say there is and won't be any romance there.
As for my other high school sweetheart, well she's tucked away in the garage and only sees the sunlight. We got her back when I was in kindergarten/1st grade...and that's my partner for life
The catera was here, and was a flop. why should the gto be more successful? why is lutz a genious for bringing us the GTO and the guys that brought the catera are fools?
The Catera would have been a better car if they would have done with it what the Aussies' have. Put a V8 in that car. They call it a Commodore.
And the GTO will be more successful than the Catera for this reason alone.
The Catera would have been a better car if they would have done with it what the Aussies' have. Put a V8 in that car. They call it a Commodore.
And the GTO will be more successful than the Catera for this reason alone.
The GTO may be a better car, of course it's a better car since I own one, but they sold more Catera's in the first year, and probably didnt have to discount them 40% to move them. Maybe the US buyers really wanted a catera coupe,or a GTO with a six?
What is off topic anyway? Is Lutz a genious because he brought over a car from australia in 2004 that failed when it was brought here in 1997?
Is the ford 500 going to be a better car than the Volvo S80 because it sells more? even though the 500 shares the S80s platform? was it genious of someone at ford to take a high line car and turn it into a bread and butter car? Was the commodore ever such a great car?
Oh and Groucho, I really do enjoy my GTO, I came from an Acura and Porsche. I echo what you wrote, and think the reply from someone as high up as Lutz is very very cool. I have a picture of my 68 Firebird signed by Jim Wangers.
When you have to replace your tires I am curious as to what your paramaters will be. I say get the same as what was on your 3, then take it on the same twisties and report back to us.
Oh and Groucho...
When you have to replace your tires I am curious as to what your paramaters will be. I say get the same as what was on your 3, then take it on the same twisties and report back to us.
Done. My tires are not stock, they are 18" Dunlop FMs...very sticky. I've taken it through my favorite canyon twistie roads....one I used to frequent in my 323i sport pack. The Goat handles very well for such a heavy car, but there is one issue I miss about my 3....the very quick, precise, honest handling of it. The GTO is slow-steering beastie, but sorta-kinda makes up for it by being so easy to throttle-steer. It is still a complete blast to hustle through the twisties, but a Bimmer it's not.
That is my main mod mission now-- polyurethane bushings all around, stiffer sway bars, and H&R springs...something to really stiffen the suspension up.
I like to tell people this: My Bimmer was a scalpel, the GTO is a Hammer.
My 93 Z28 had a SLP stage II suspension - lowered eibachs, bigger Lingenfelter sways, urethane bushings, Hotchkiss trailing arms & strut tower brace, bigger panhard and revalved bilsteins, etc. It beat a bunch of Porsches at a PCA autocross with a kid (he was rebuilding his motor) I let drive it who never drove the car before. I had a bad day, but when I had my 944S2 and he had his 944 turbo we were usually very close.
Back on point. I had the bigger sways, urethane bushings, stiffer springs, trailing arms, etc. I got the GTO because my wife told me she couldnt sit in the car for more than 20 minutes without killing her already bad back.
be careful how far you go with the mods because of the long trip you have every day.
I haven't driven my current 944S2(this one has stock Boges which are too soft especially when compared to the Z28, the one that was stolen had Konis) since I bought the GTO. I plan on taking it out next weekend to a porsche meeting. My rears are a bit too wide so I have extra understeer, but I am curious to see how different they are.
The GTO may be a better car, of course it's a better car since I own one, but they sold more Catera's in the first year, and probably didnt have to discount them 40% to move them. Maybe the US buyers really wanted a catera coupe,or a GTO with a six?
I went to the Chicago Auto Show on Thrusday because it is always more fum than working. I wanted to see the 05 GTO and see how I liked the changes. I can say I like the hood and am ambivelent about the rear. I like my 04s better.
After looking at cars for several hours I think that Mr Lutz is to be thanked a lot for bringing us the GTO. I think it is by far the best value for the money even at sticker price. Perhaps the previous poster is correct in stating that this car is here to draw us into buying a Caddy because the CST-V would be my next choice.
I did ask for a $45.00 per hr raise in pay today as I think I would look good in an Astin Martin DB9. They think I'm funny.
There have been some good highspeed touring cars recently, one being the GEN III SHO Tarus. (I had a 99). It seems that these types of cars are never really promoted properly. It is good to have a car that goes fast well and really only gets noticed by those in the know. Neither my green SHO or my black GTO seem to create too much of a stir when I blow by people. No cops are good cops.
Not a real big surprise I suppose, but I also went from a Gen III SHO (red '96) to the black GTO. We also had a '90 Q45 before that, which was also an excellent GT car, (unfortunately it suffered from horrible electrical gremlins). In fact I still have the SHO in my driveway, getting ready to try selling it. The Pontiac dealer would only give me $1k trade-in on it! That was the best car we've ever had - not one single problem in the 6yrs we drove it - but it's getting a bit long in the tooth now. Still can't believe resale is sooo bad on them - mine only has 95k miles, and I'll be lucky to see $3k out of it.
The SHO was my wife's car, but we're trading off on the GTO - she has it this week.
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