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What do you guys think of the endura delete goats? I'm seriously thinking about putting the stock Lemans bumper back on my car? This plastic repo doesn't fit worth a crap and I think it may look great with all the chrome under the hood and the Crager wheels for show. This car is a cloned Lemans anyway, so why not? I've seen some pic's of a few endura delete show cars that look great, I'd like some other opinions. The GTO's that were endura delete had the stock Lemans bumpers, right?
 

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I like the chrome on my Lemans, and mine like yours is 1 year only, so an oddity. Can you use the hideaways with the chrome bumper? I'd keep the hideaways if it was me for sure. I wouldn't do it, when I go to car corrals and see dead wrong "GTOs" it is like WTF. It would be a hard sale to prove "endura delete" GTO without documentation. I've seen a bunch of 66/7 GTO's with Lemans/Tempest tail lights and just thought, really.. If you have all the subparts for the endura, maybe just find a new bumper.
 

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That's a good question, can you have the edura delete and hide-away headlights? Never seen one, probably not. I love the hide-away lights, made the '68 and 69's unique. I'll just have to find another endura bumper. The parts place in Chicago has endura bumpers on their website with no price. I'll have to check them out and see if there available and the price.
 

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Thanks, I sent him a message. Now that is exactly what I'm trying to do (except for the blower!) Such a coincedence, he even has the same motor (474) in his car. Very, very cool, in my opinion! As Alky said, would drive the purists nuts!
 

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What do you guys think of the endura delete goats? I'm seriously thinking about putting the stock Lemans bumper back on my car? This plastic repo doesn't fit worth a crap and I think it may look great with all the chrome under the hood and the Crager wheels for show. This car is a cloned Lemans anyway, so why not? I've seen some pic's of a few endura delete show cars that look great, I'd like some other opinions. The GTO's that were endura delete had the stock Lemans bumpers, right?
I worked at a dealer prep mechanic At Austin Pontiac in so buffalo then to Oachard Park NY ! I did see 3 come thru the dealership . And I ended up buying one that got traded in in 1970 it was a 2 dr sedan w/ bench seat light blue w/ white vinyl top. White intiour . It had 400 Ho w4 speed. And 3.66 posi out back The chrome bumper was 65 lb lighter than the endura bumper full chrome pkg under the hood. How tell ya how big blocks 396s, fords and slopars I dragged there ass down street! Ohio st under the Skyway bridge in Buffalo Ny. Those were the days. !
 

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I have never really liked the front lower valence on my '68 with the ugly wraparound parking/turn signal lights. Always preferred the '69's valance with the neat looking lights. Was it much trouble to to do changeover? Thanks.
 

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I like the chrome on my Lemans, and mine like yours is 1 year only, so an oddity. Can you use the hideaways with the chrome bumper? I'd keep the hideaways if it was me for sure. I wouldn't do it, when I go to car corrals and see dead wrong "GTOs" it is like WTF. It would be a hard sale to prove "endura delete" GTO without documentation. I've seen a bunch of 66/7 GTO's with Lemans/Tempest tail lights and just thought, really.. If you have all the subparts for the endura, maybe just find a new bumper.
I have never really liked the front lower valence on my '68 with the ugly wraparound parking/turn signal lights. Always preferred the '69's valance with the neat looking lights. Was it much trouble to to do changeover? Thanks.
 

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Yours llook good accept you should use the non hideaway GTO grill units . If I remember right there was an install kit for grills in the chrome bumpers. The chrome GTO bumper kits were available over the parts counter in 69 . Pontiac Dodd’s not offer endura delete when ordering from factory in 69
 

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Yes, I know that the factory delete was not offered in 69. That is why I said "...would have looked like if it was ever offered". I am not going to put a GTO emblem on my car because it is not an original GTO. It has no model identifying emblems on it at all, except it has the Custom S dash pad emblem that I left in place. I did not know that the GTO non-hideaway grilles could be used with the chrome bumper. That would look better, but I have never seen parts available to mount them. I don't think they would bolt right in. Thanks!
 

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Yes, I know that the factory delete was not offered in 69. That is why I said "...would have looked like if it was ever offered". I am not going to put a GTO emblem on my car because it is not an original GTO. It has no model identifying emblems on it at all, except it has the Custom S dash pad emblem that I left in place. I did not know that the GTO non-hideaway grilles could be used with the chrome bumper. That would look better, but I have never seen parts available to mount them. I don't think they would bolt right in. Thanks!
Google pictures of 68 GTO with chrome front bumper
 

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I did do a google images search for "endura delete GTO". The all have the same LeMans grilles that I am using. Mine are just painted all black. I do not see any with the GTO fixed headlight grilles. If you find one, please post the link so I can see it. Thank you.
 

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Some old guy over this past weekend asked me about my 69 with the chrome 68 bumper. He proceeded to tell me when he worked for a pontiac dealer in pennsylvania in the parts department back in the 60's and 70's and they offered a dealer installed endura delete option for the 1969 gto's using the 68 bumper and how he had been looking for one for several decades now and hoped mine was one of them. Sadly I had to tell him no it isn't. He looked sad when I said no. He went on to tell me there were a couple cars ordered that way by customers and then the dealership made a couple to sell on their lot with the chrome 68 bumpers. Apparently the chrome front bumper was big in philly. We talked about cars for a long time, how he would swap different heads and cams and what the best street combo was (428, 744cam, #670 heads, factory intake, factory Qjet) He told me he never liked the 455 because "it made too much torque and not enough HP, it would just sit there and melt tires". I told him about the plan for my motor (350, 068, 69 #46 heads, eddy rpm and holley 750) he told me stick with the 72 intake and 69 Qjet i already have. He told me to never sell my goat and i told him the story of how i ended up with it and that selling it will never happen. He was a cool old dude. I told him about this forum, I hope he finds his way here.

Who wants to help me swap heads and cam this weekend???
 

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What do you guys think of the endura delete goats? I'm seriously thinking about putting the stock Lemans bumper back on my car? This plastic repo doesn't fit worth a crap and I think it may look great with all the chrome under the hood and the Crager wheels for show. This car is a cloned Lemans anyway, so why not? I've seen some pic's of a few endura delete show cars that look great, I'd like some other opinions. The GTO's that were endura delete had the stock Lemans bumpers, right?
I think the endura deletes look awesome.
 
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