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I had time to kill today before a meeting in town, so I thought I'd bop by and look at the cars I'm considering next.

Driving by the local Porsche dealership, I saw this little Atlas Grey beauty:



It's a dealer demo 2006 Cayman S, ~3k miles, optioned very lightly....that is to say, just exactly how I would do it. All it really had was PASM active suspension, factory short shift kit, and- as the only nod to luxo & weight- a Bose surround sound stereo.

Ended up taking it out for a 120 mph test drive with one of the salesdoods. Amazing car...just mind-blowing. the grip on this car...wow. The brakes will pop your eyes right the feck out of their sockets (demoed by a 100-0 simulated holyf*ckingsh*t stop- with hands off the wheel during the whole stomp) and even at this car's lateral limits the controlability was just 100% idiot-resistant. Mindblowing. This is the most controllable car at the edges of the envelope I have ever driven.

The planets have not aligned properly yet...but man. The Porsche is now officially in the lead as the replacement for the Holden.

Now, I've screwed myself. I want one.

Oh...I never did listen to the stereo. That boxer engine is music enough. Sweet.


I need to drive a BMW Z4 M-Coupe next. One thing I noticed, however, is that general visibility from the cockpit in the Porsche is way better than the M-Coupe, where rear vis is like looking down a tunnel...a big deal when carving LA traffic. MPG will be better in the Cayman S too...though that's pretty far down the selection matrix. :D
 

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I'm thinking, why the hell are you concerned with MPG if you drive a porsche? So you gonna sell ur GTO/Monaro? I'm poor, care to donate to those who haven't made it big yet? JP.
Seriously though, good choice.
 

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Groucho, you and I have been "back-and-forthing" on this forum for a long time. I just can't picture you driving anything else BUT the Monaro. So it's got 100k. I think it's just broken in. Why sell now?
 

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You should have been at the Charity event I attended Thursday night in Westport. There was a silent auction for lots of good stuff but they reserved the three biggest $$ items for a traditional auction after the meal was served.

Topping the list was a bright red 2007 Cayman S. It was parked in the circular drive of the club where the event was held, right near the entrance, so that guests could ogle it on their way in. Very nice car. I like the looks much better than the 911.

One aside. As I was leaving the event a man and woman, I presume from the dealership that donated the car were walking beside me. They exchanged some words and then began to walk in separate directions, she towards the car and he towards the parking lot.

The woman then proceeded to walk right up to the Porsche. And, without breaking stride, she grabbed one corner of a magnetic sign stuck to the driver's door and casually dragged it off the paint as she kept walking towards the rear of the car. I was cringing. Should've gone over and bitch slapped her. But I kept walking as it wasn't my car and I had a 4.5 hour drive in front of me.

Good luck with the Porsche. That should make the commute tolerable.

What was the 0-60 time?
Did that IRS give you a lot of wheel hop off the line?
How about the 60 ft times?
 

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Groucho,
You definately need to take your time and weigh out your options here.
If you think about it, for just twice as much, you could have a 1987 buick
GNX with only 9 miles on it! :rofl: :rofl:
 

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Groucho,
You definately need to take your time and weigh out your options here.
If you think about it, for just twice as much, you could have a 1987 buick
GNX with only 9 miles on it! :rofl: :rofl:
i'd have to agree you should have bid on that 87 most definitely. that porsche looks a tad bit slow. how easily can it be modified?
 

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It really is an amazing car...but I need to drive the Z4 M-Coupe.

There's a $10,000 premium on the Porsche...and you can have Mr. Dinan perform quite a bit of his magic to the M for ten large.
 

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Other than the typical Porsche owner snob appeal, I'm not sure why anyone would select a Cayman over the C6. The C6 is tons faster. The C6 handles and brakes as well and costs less and mods up for much less money. The C6 has a much more user friendly interior and gets better mileage than the S. The Cayman I drove also didn't ride very well, it had an active ride management system, so that might have contributed to it. I will concede the seats felt better and the steering felt telepathic, but that is about the only things I remember liking better than my C6. Oh I drove a manual Cayman S and the shifter and transmission make the Tremec in the GTO and C6 feel like it was designed to be a really good truck transmission.

Groucho, you owe it to yourself to drive a C6.
 

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Other than the typical Porsche owner snob appeal, I'm not sure why anyone would select a Cayman over the C6. The C6 is tons faster. The C6 handles and brakes as well and costs less and mods up for much less money. The C6 has a much more user friendly interior and gets better mileage than the S. The Cayman I drove also didn't ride very well, it had an active ride management system, so that might have contributed to it. I will concede the seats felt better and the steering felt telepathic, but that is about the only things I remember liking better than my C6. Oh I drove a manual Cayman S and the shifter and transmission make the Tremec in the GTO and C6 feel like it was designed to be a really good truck transmission.

Groucho, you owe it to yourself to drive a C6.
I have...not the same thing. The C6 is fast, and handles decently (I strongly disagree that it handles "as well as a Cayman S" though)...but there is that distinctive Teutonic Precision with a German car...and as you say, the C6 still has that PoS Tremec. Screw that.

Never again shall I purchase a domestically-branded car. I'm done.
 

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I have...not the same thing. The C6 is fast, and handles decently (I strongly disagree that it handles "as well as a Cayman S" though)...but there is that distinctive Teutonic Precision with a German car...and as you say, the C6 still has that PoS Tremec. Screw that.

Never again shall I purchase a domestically-branded car. I'm done.
You like Pepsi, I like Coke. I think we'll both agree that Dr. Pepper is nice sometimes too.
 

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Groucho- Nice choice man. I'm a huge Porsche fan, and love the Cayman S. No doubt an incredible car. Def drive the M Coupe, but my fingers are crossed for you and the Cayman S "hooking up".
 

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Been continuing to research the crap out of the Cayman S v. BMW Z4 M-Coupe...and I keep coming back to the fact that the Porsche is really, really fecking expensive.

The M-Coupe is at the very least $10k less than the Cayman S...and that price gulf gets way wider in an eye-watering hurry with just a vey few options added to the Porsche.

So...wifey and I are driving up to the BMW/Dinan dealer up in Fresno today to (hopefully) test drive an M-Coupe...I gotta find out for myself if I can determine a noticable $10-20k difference between the two.

I may be able to pull the trigger by month's end... :D

Wheeeee!
 

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Don't forget to factor in the maintenance costs, too. Understand BMW picks up all scheduled maintenance. Don't know what Porsche does. Saw a Cayman S driving up to Sacramento yesterday. This one was black. Good looking car.
 

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OK...drove both the M-Roadster (meh) and the M-Coupe (w00t!).

:twisted:

Wow. I was reminded of just how much I missed my Bimmers. That turbine-like I6, flick-of-the-wrist shift-lever, and zero dead-zone steering (oh-how I missed thee!) were more than enough to let me forget that a Bradley armored vehicle has a better rear view. The light control inputs were just epic. The Coupe is comfortable and fast as hell.

Didn't get a holy****ing**** ride in either of the Z4Ms, but I threw it around a bit. Loved it.

Freakin' sweet.

And agreed on the full amintenance ride in the BMW. Great deal...all you buy is gas and rubber.
 

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OK...drove both the M-Roadster (meh) and the M-Coupe (w00t!).

:twisted:

Wow. I was reminded of just how much I missed my Bimmers. That turbine-like I6, flick-of-the-wrist shift-lever, and zero dead-zone steering (oh-how I missed thee!) were more than enough to let me forget that a Bradley armored vehicle has a better rear view. The light control inputs were just epic. The Coupe is comfortable and fast as hell.

Didn't get a holy****ing**** ride in either of the Z4Ms, but I threw it around a bit. Loved it.

Freakin' sweet.

And agreed on the full amintenance ride in the BMW. Great deal...all you buy is gas and rubber.
Sweet, my roomate and I are going to the BMW dealer tomorrow to drive the M roadster and hopefully a 335i and if I'm really lucky an M3 or something. I'm curious to see what will happen. BMW is the only ones who can win me over now to get their car instead of a GTO but they do cost a good deal more. Anyways glad to hear your opinion, looking forward to tomorrow now.
 
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