About 7.5k off sticker with no GM card bonuses is about where we were in December. Some got about 8-8.5k off sticker plus the GM card bonus.
I got the 5500 rebate, plus 2300 from the dealer, some got about 3300 from the dealer. Then there was the 5000 GM card kicker.
It may be better to lease an 05 because of the higher residual and lower interest rate.
I got about 10k off my 01 Aurora this time in 02, but unfortunatly had to buy it. I wouldnt buy a new GM car again, too many problems with the service dept. Better to lease it and decide after three years if you want to be married to the vehicle.
I just had a magnetic drain plug installed in the GTO. If there are minimal pieces over the three years, I will probably buy it. If I don't like what I see, I can give it back to GM and in reality get 16,600 for the car.