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OK guys..... this should be a good debate topic....

And who do you think will be our next President?

I don't think America as a whole is ready to embrace a Female president. Sure, the Democrats are savoring the recent victories in the House, and Senate. But I just don't think they have a strong candidate for Pres. Bush has really screwed things up for the Republicans, but as a whole, Do you think America is ready to see Hillary run this country? IMO .... NO... she ran it once when she puppeted Billy Boy.

How about Bama? Is America ready for a black President?

IMO...NO....... However If there was one black politician who I think would stand the best chance of election would be Colin Powell but he's not running. I would vote for him.

IMO I think our next president will be Rudy Guiliani. The pollsters have him out in front. Our country lacks a leader we can embrace, and with his handling of NY on 911, he's shown the skills (according to the pollsters) people are looking for. Yes he as dirt on him as does all the candidates but all considering.... ........ I think the Republican nomination will come down to he and McCain.

As much as the Demos want a Demo, I just don't see the two leading candidates winning.

I am not political by any means, I base my opinions on what I read, and see on the news......

thoughts???
 

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OOOOOOOOHHHH HELL NO.What really scares me is that so many women will vote for her JUST because of gender alone.IMO 90 percent of women need medicated to balance their hormones regardless of age[post puberty]and most arent.I say that as Im going into my bomb shelter because that always launches an attack from the ladies but it is so true.Women seem to excuse alot of their actions do to PMS,Menopause,and other hormone driven events.I love women very much but ther is alot of baggage that goes along with them and if my wife sees this Im in the dog house again.Most refuse to get thier hormones balanced out and even if they do another excuse is I forgot my meds.I forget all about this in the GTO so thank God for the GOAT:cheers
 

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Female president? Sure.....roll out a credible candidate.....Not Billary!
African American president? Sure....roll out a credible candidate.....Not Jesse Jackson!

I don't know that much about Obama's resume other than what the campaign cronies have started to put out in the media. He seems to be a relatively young, attractive, well groomed and well spoken person. That's likely why the party machinery latched onto him. But as for his experience and record, I must admit I know next to nothing about him. At least there appears to be no scandal associated with him so far, that's a huge plus. Maybe the guy has some character!

As for Colin Powell, the man definitely has character. Unfortunately, he probably has too much character for the White House. And he has enough brains to stay the hell out of that frying pan. Too bad for us.

Anyone with a brain doesn't want anything to do with the office these days. So, we are left with the members of the blind ambition club. Sad!

IMHO, the republicans are toast this time around. After two terms with Bush & Cheney, there is no republican candidate that can win. The country feels betrayed (except for the folks at Haliburton et al) and they want out of a no win situation in Iraq. What arrogance to think that we know what's best for a bunch of people with a wildly different history and culture that are surrounded by other states with equally alien cultures.

The Democrats on the other hand have who....Kerry/Frankenstein/Swift Boat Hero? Billary?

It's gonna be another tough election year for the American public!

Where's Ross Perot and Lyndon LaRouche to provide the laughs?
 

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Alan Keyes would make an excellent POTUS.

Hillary is way too liberal. If she gets elected we'll end up being just another European Socialist country. We'll have medical care for all, it will just be horrible quality and will be rationed. Taxes through the roof and unemployment that is in the double digits. We'll allow the UN to run our foriegn policy.

I'm coming up blank right now for a female candidate that would be qualified. 10 years ago I could have voted for Elizabeth Dole, also I think she would have been a better VP choice than Chenney.

I'm ultra-conservative, so I'd like to see Newt Gingrich run. Rick Santorum would be another good candidate as far as I'm concerned. I have some questions about Rudy, but would vote for him over any Democrat. If it's McCain I'll pass on voting or vote for the Democrat, at least I'll know what I'm voting for.
 

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One woman I always admired in the political arena was Jean Kirkpatrick. I think she'd a made a good leader.

I'd vote for Bill O'Reiley in a heartbeat.

I used to hate, I mean I hated Newt Gingrich. But after listening to him, and his views, I think he'd be a good candidate. I'd really consider him.

Nancy Pelosi and her S-P army are dangerous.

Politicians who support restorative justice instead of punishment for rapists, murders etc. is dangerous to everyone.
i.e. Vermont.... Judge Cashman and his sentence of a rapist who repeatedly raped a girl for over 4 years was given a 60 day sentence. After public outcry he rescinded it to a mere 3 years... Again in Ohio, the same type of sentence....

People like Pelosi support this.... don't punish them.... give them some help and let them go. Well some of the Demo presidential wannabes support this theory.

I ain't ready for their ideology.
 

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I think the real question is, is America dumb enough to elect a female president?

For the moment, thankfully they are not. We're getting there though.
 

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Imagine you are a woman.... Your husband is president and he is caught red handed getting a BJ from an intern..... The world looks at you waiting to see how you are going to handle it in the public spectrum....

We're still waiting to see what she's gonna do........... :rolleyes:

OOPS .,.... she did it.

hmmmmmmm......magnify that against aggressors who are pushing us around now and nothing is being done........
 

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I would have no problem with either a woman, African American or Hispanic for president, but they've got to have the experience to handle the job, and prove they can leave emotions out of the equation.

I guess Hillary has proven she's the ice princess, at least in her dealings with Bill's indiscretions.

There's just something that's not likeable about her though- - -Obama seems likeable enough, but what's he really done??? What's his experience??? I think we older folks remember Jimmy Carter; nice guy, likeable, not much experience other than Governor, and that just didn't work out.

I'm going to be interested in watching this process- - -will agree with one writer tho in that Bush has screwed it for the Republicans in the forseeable future.
 

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Hillary is a brilliant lady, but she's just too liberal for me.
Obama is a very intelligent and likeable guy, he just doesn't have enough experience.
Colin Powell would have made a great President, but Bush, Cheney and Co. destroyed his credibility.
Rudy handled 9/11 superbly, but the mudslingers will have a field day with his personal life. He's kind of thin-skinned too.
McCain...I don't know about him, his views have been all over the place.
Edwards... maybe, but still a lot of inexperience there.
Newt Gingrinch scares the hell out of me. I see Young Republicans marching in jackboots.

I don't know enough about the other candidates to comment on them, but I'll say this: male, female, black, white, whatever, we just need somebody with some brains AND balls, and I hope and pray that we get someone who finally gives a damn about the American people, not just their own rich crony friends and the big campaign contributors. I'm so tired of our nation trying to save the world while our own country is going to hell in a handbasket.
 

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Tell ya what......... If someone with BALLS does not address the uprising of the radical Islamic leaders that are popping up all over the world, we will not have a choice in who is our president. WE ALL will be forced to recognize a NUT with like the likes DUMDEMENTEDJAD or die.

Notice..... All over the world you see a fanatic (Islamic General) popping up. They are Generals being strategically placed and waiting until the time is ripe for an all out invasion. An Armageddon.

Anyone who is into history as it is related to biblical predictions, I encourage you to read a book called..... Countdown to Armageddon, by David Hapgood.

It depicts a final war being orchestrated by a great power to the East, namely the USSR, but Islamic radicals has taken over... it describes a final war of the world led by Fanatics content on destroying the Great power to the WEST.... America.

TOO many of our newly elected congress people namely Nancy Pelosi is more worried about the undoings of the Republican Party than the whole world order. If you listen to her and the Ted Kennedy's of Congress they address Republicans as the enemy. She and her Secular Progressive army is more worried in playing house than addressing the threat that we are forced to deal with.

FOX news just did a documentary on Hezbollah in the USA. They have terror cells throughout the states and are setting up for a massive strike. They even let FOX news on their turff to film. They want us to know they are coming because they know we lack the recourses, and leaders to stop them.
They are coming across the borders and getting around the laws set up to keep them out.

Our leaders are turning a DEAF EYE on this. To the Democrats, the Republicans are the enemy. Look at the news.

I am telling you.... If this is not addressed we are all going to be forced to learn arabic. Oh by the way.... China has just now showed the world they can knock out our satellites. Don't think for a minute China would not team up with N. Korea, or Iran to do this. They knock out a half dozen satellites they can cripple our defense systems.

Muslims believe that Mohammad will not reappear until the whole world is Islmaic, and the NUTS in the Mid-East are hell bent on this. Remember.. Islam (according to Mohammad) is spread by the sword.

This should scare the hell out of people. We need leadership with the likes of FDR, or Truman, what we have running now are candidates worried about the war between Democrats, and Republicans.

I am not a political person, and I see what's headed our way and it scares the hell out of me.
 

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Oh baby, a political forum thread!!! yippee!!!! :party:

Are we ready for a female president? Yes...as long as it isn't Hillary. As a couple of you said previously, she would destroy everything good in this country. All of the politically correct crap started when the clintons came to town, and if we elect her as president, stuff like that will only get worse.

I will admit, government healthcare for all sounds EXCELLENT, and it IS excellent in smaller countries who don't eat fast food an average of 5x per week. Let's face it, we're not the healthiest country on earth. The italian system is fairly good...it's a mix of both private and government health care. Everyone has access to government healthcare, and it costs everyone 30-50% of their income. People who can afford it though, go to private healthcare to avoid lines and long waits to see a doctor. We'd have that same problem. So you'd essentially be paying *significantly* more taxes for something you may not ever use. Americans aren't gonna want to give up 50% of their income, I know I don't want to.

My only issue with a female president is in dealing with middle-eastern countries...especially the overwhelmingly islamic cultures. Women just aren't respected in those cultures. Although it's getting better, they're still 2nd class citizens. I feel that they wouldn't take a female president seriously, based on her sex. That could be seriously detrimental to not only our health, but the world's as a whole.

Obama hasn't DONE anything...that's why y'all don't know anything about him. There's nothing to know! I would have zero problem with a black president (I don't use the word african-american, because I believe it's one of those words that SEPARATES people, not brings them together...but that's another topic entirely). I believe that a black president could do as good of a job as anyone else. Colin Powell would have been the IDEAL person for president in my opinion. He's a no nonsense kind of guy who says what he means and means what he says...and that's PRECISELY what *I* want in a president. Give obama 10-15 more years and see what he does, he may very well end up as a president down the road. He does seem like a very intelligent and well-spoken guy.

I voted for dubya, twice. He's done some good things and some, well, uh...not so good things, for this country. Honestly, I think we need someone who is even TOUGHER on the terrorists than dubya. We need someone who isn't gonna half-step when it comes to taking these guys out. The terrorists need to know, without a doubt, that if they attack us, retaliation will come SWIFTLY and WITHOUT MERCY. Any country who is known to harbor these idiots will be attacked with EXTREME prejudice! We'll make it so dangerous for anyone to harbor a terrorist that NOBODY will want to do it ever again.

We also need to pull out of the UN and kick their stupid arses off of American soil, in addition to stopping ALL funding. The USA supplies over 60% of the funding, but what do we get out of it? We get idiots like ahasdfhasdad (ahmadinejad) and Chavez (prime minister of Brazil) up there saying that our president is the devil and using their time to bash the USA repeatedly, on a WORLD STAGE! We get people like France who veto any resolution we propose because they're scared. In the big picture, nobody listens to the UN anyway. Any of the resolutions passed are more like suggestion letters...

Dear Prime Minister Ahmadinejad:
It has come to our attention that you are attempting to attain nuclear, biological and/or chemical weapons. As you know, you are not allowed to do such things under previous UN resolutions (insert resolution numbers here). We cordially invite you to attend a meeting at the UN to resolve this matter. If you feel that this resolution is unfair in any way, just ignore it, it's not like we're going to do anything to enforce it other than shake our collective fingers at you and/or pass other resolutions.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter,
--The UN

P.S. France has some old nuclear reactors that they would like to liquidate, if you want 'em. Kim Jong Il has also informed us that if you would like some ICBMs, they have several that they'll be willing to sell. Also, Russia has a whole bunch of plutonium that is unsecured...if you need directions to get there, please contact us and we will draw you a map.

Let's face it, nobody takes the UN seriously. They are nearly as useless as the french...so we should move the UN to Paris and allow them to feel more at home when they're doing nothing. I also think they need to change their flag to just a solid-white sheet, that way when it comes time to surrender, they'll have something handy to wave.

It's become painfully obvious to me that if the USA doesn't do something to stop the terrorists, nobody will. So it doesn't matter much to me if the next president is male, female, white, black, red, purple or orange. The fact is that we need to be TOUGH with these terrorists (and the countries who support them) and stop worrying if we're offending the rest of the world. The french aren't the ones being attacked, so personally, I don't give a damn if they think if we're right or wrong. There are ways that we can destroy this threat without losing our brave men and women of the armed forces, and I think it's high time that we begin to look at those options. So we need a president who says what he means and means what he says and isn't afraid to make very tough decisions...the rest of the world be damned. Yes, innocent people will die. 2973 innocent men, women and children died on 9-11 and more of our brave soldiers, airmen, seamen and marines die each day fighting in the middle east. According to the rest of the world, it's *okay* if innocent americans die, but not a few innocent people in the middle east. It's time for a little payback and for the acts of terror to STOP...either voluntarily (if they're smart) or through force (if they're not). We MUST eliminate this threat before they eliminate us.
 

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Tell ya what......... If someone with BALLS does not address the uprising of the radical Islamic leaders that are popping up all over the world, we will not have a choice in who is our president. WE ALL will be forced to recognize a NUT with like the likes DUMDEMENTEDJAD or die.

Notice..... All over the world you see a fanatic (Islamic General) popping up. They are Generals being strategically placed and waiting until the time is ripe for an all out invasion. An Armageddon.

Anyone who is into history as it is related to biblical predictions, I encourage you to read a book called..... Countdown to Armageddon, by David Hapgood.

It depicts a final war being orchestrated by a great power to the East, namely the USSR, but Islamic radicals has taken over... it describes a final war of the world led by Fanatics content on destroying the Great power to the WEST.... America.

TOO many of our newly elected congress people namely Nancy Pelosi is more worried about the undoings of the Republican Party than the whole world order. If you listen to her and the Ted Kennedy's of Congress they address Republicans as the enemy. She and her Secular Progressive army is more worried in playing house than addressing the threat that we are forced to deal with.

FOX news just did a documentary on Hezbollah in the USA. They have terror cells throughout the states and are setting up for a massive strike. They even let FOX news on their turff to film. They want us to know they are coming because they know we lack the recourses, and leaders to stop them.
They are coming across the borders and getting around the laws set up to keep them out.

Our leaders are turning a DEAF EYE on this. To the Democrats, the Republicans are the enemy. Look at the news.

I am telling you.... If this is not addressed we are all going to be forced to learn arabic. Oh by the way.... China has just now showed the world they can knock out our satellites. Don't think for a minute China would not team up with N. Korea, or Iran to do this. They knock out a half dozen satellites they can cripple our defense systems.

Muslims believe that Mohammad will not reappear until the whole world is Islmaic, and the NUTS in the Mid-East are hell bent on this. Remember.. Islam (according to Mohammad) is spread by the sword.

This should scare the hell out of people. We need leadership with the likes of FDR, or Truman, what we have running now are candidates worried about the war between Democrats, and Republicans.

I am not a political person, and I see what's headed our way and it scares the hell out of me.
:agree Well said my friend.

Whoever we get, Republican, Democrat, or other, I hope they recognize the grave threats you mention and take absolute concrete steps to fight it. I hate to say this, but my honest opinion is we'll never win the war on terror. There are just too many rabid fanatical Islamist terrorists happy to die for their cause. You kill one and three more spring up to take his place. The only way to eliminate the threat completely is to eliminate all Muslims, and that just isn't a morally realistic option. A guy named Hitler had ideas along those lines, only the Jews were his nemesis. In pure terms of right vs. wrong, we wouldn't be any better than they are. Crusades Part II. Personally I don't believe ALL Muslims are bad and want to kill all Americans and destroy our country. The million dollar question is how do you know which ones are?

I forget how many hundreds of millions or even billions of Muslims there are in the world, but if they ever get their act together and stop fighting each other and join forces to fight us, God help us. So far we've been really lucky that they've been disorganized and disjointed and spent more time fighting amongst themselves than fighing one common enemy (us), but I think that is changing. Politics aside, Iraq has done more to bring these people together against us than anything else I can remember.

I don't belong to any political party either, and I've never voted a straight ticket in my life. I usually end picking what I believe to be the lesser of two evils. I'm generally conservative by nature, and I side with Republicans on moral and social issues and I'm pro-military and pro-national defense, but I tend to side with Dems on most economic issues and I believe that our country should take care of its own citizens first. But on the whole the Republicans are too far to the right for me and the Democrats are too far to the left. This country really needs a third political party that is a realistic and viable alternative to the two extremes we have now. How about the "Centrist" party?

Regarding China: We've fought wars by proxy (Viet Nam, Korea) with China but never faced them directly. I think it's coming. It is a known fact that the United States is building the biggest military in the world. Problem is, it's in China. All those billions of dollars we send them every year in trade, those profits are being used to rebuild and modernize their already huge military machine. Between the staggering trade deficit with China and their currency manipluation in the world foreign exchange market, we are financing the biggest military expansion in history. THEIRS. China has pegged its currency, the Yuan, to the US dollar for the last 15 years or so, although it's now tied to a basket of world currencies. But the net result is China's currency is undervalued by roughly 40%, which means all those cheap Chinese products are in effect subsidised by the Chinese government, and American made products, if you can find them anymore, are artifcially priced 40% higher by comparison. This isn't my opinion, it is FACT. It's been argued on Capitol Hill and in think tanks and symposiums for the last decade, but the fact is there are too many people getting rich off all those underpriced Chinese-made products flooding our shores to put a stop to it.

Imagine this: Business is making a fortune off of cheap Chinese imports >>> business owns politicians >>> politicians owe business for buying them into office >>> neither politicians nor business will stop the hemorrhaging of US jobs and US dollars to China because they are making a killing >>> US consumers continue to buy up cheap Chinese products because that's all they can afford or all they can find now >>> more and more of our money goes to China >>> China builds the world's most massive and modern military >>> China becomes the new world superpower >>> the US now answers to China >>> the US becomes a 3rd world country.

This is actually happening, now, today, as we speak. It's a vicious downward spiral that is feeding on itself. I'm not kidding when I say our country is in a race to the bottom. Stick around and see if it doesn't happen. I wouldn't bother learning Arabic, I'd start practicing Mandarin. Will we finally wake up before it's too late and fight back? Scares the living hell out of me too.
 

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The Pope was right..... Remember what he said.... Islam is spread by the sword. Muslims firmly believe Mohammad will not manifest himself until the entire world is recognized as Islamic. THEY are making their move now.

If all the Muslims want this, how far will our peaceful Muslim neighbors go? After all do they not want to see their profit?
 

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It sounds to me like we need to send our special forces over to china to attack china on behalf of the muslims! The we can kill 2 birds with one stone.

:cheers

btw, there are over a billion muslims in the world too...so a muslim vs china war would work just about perfectly...billion vs billion!
 

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Thing is it ain't China the Muslims want to eliminate, it's us. China is a dictator state where their people live in squaller, just like some of the Islamic countries do.

We stand for liberation where people are free to do as they please and live a life of free speech etc..... The Islamic, and communist lead countries keep their people in check. USA the first to be destroyed, the rest of the world second.
 

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Thing is it ain't China the Muslims want to eliminate, it's us. China is a dictator state where their people live in squaller, just like some of the Islamic countries do.

We stand for liberation where people are free to do as they please and live a life of free speech etc..... The Islamic, and communist lead countries keep their people in check. USA the first to be destroyed, the rest of the world second.
I know, that's why we do a black ops attack on BEHALF of the muslims on china. ;)

I'm going to build my own rocketship, and self-sufficient living structure for mars...if you're female and cute, please feel free to apply to go with me. haha
 

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I know, that's why we do a black ops attack on BEHALF of the muslims on china. ;)

I'm going to build my own rocketship, and self-sufficient living structure for mars...if you're female and cute, please feel free to apply to go with me. haha

If you have room in your ship for me and that sexy side of beef which is my avatar, hold me a half dozen seats....

What ya drinkin........ I'll take some :cheers
 

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I personaly have lost all faith in our democratic form a of government. It was a good system when you had people with integrity and pride in their country that would run for high positions. I feel Ronald Reagan was the last President that we had that truly wanted to be president because he wanted to improve our country and not for alternitive motives. It to late to change the coming tide. Just be prepared to provide for your family and defend your property if the "poop hits the fan". I remember 9/11 and the lines at the gas stations. That will be nothing compared to the way people are going to panic if a dirty bomb goes off somewhere.

And as far as a woman pres. shure why not, just not Hilliary. But it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for a black president. I know alot of nice black people and everyone of them does a complete 180 when you get them around a few other blacks. I'm sick and tired of them thinking that I owe them something. Go start an all white colloge and see what happens. Or an all white TV channel. You just won't know what you got till it's to late and he's having Jessie and Al over for dinner at the White House.
 
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