Jep, Germany calling. WTF is up with the Alternator mounting? How should it be?

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · 14 d ago

Jep. Tess was schlepped back to the shop again for numerous issues. One was that the v-belt shredded, and the other was an Exxon Valdez leak from the gas tank after a fill up. Fasten your seat belts. This is the kind of crap I deal with every day from other shops that do shoddy work.

The first issue is with the alternator mounting. Can anyone send me photos of what the correct setup should look like? I hope you are sitting down.
This is not correct. I am a MoPar guy, but I do know a bit about Pontiac's.

OK. I am having problems with the posting of the photos. In the photos, you can see what I am dealing with. I can fix the broken mount, welding it up and making it pretty are not the issue.
How should it look with the bracket for the tensioner?

All the best from Germany,

Jonathan Kriebel.

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Sick467

· #2 · 14 d ago

Here's a shot of my 67 the way it was, and will be again. Looks like someone abandoned the rear brace and beefed up the front one (the two sandwiched at the alternator). As far as the cracked open cast aluminum...it's cracked open.

a shot from below...

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #3 · 13 d ago

Thanks. At least I have a reference point.

geeteeohguy

· #4 · 12 d ago

Your water pump pulley is wrong and your upper mount is missing the support arm and is mis-installed.

Here's my '67, original parts since '67.

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #5 · 12 d ago

geeteeohguy said:
Your water pump pulley is wrong, and your upper mount is missing the support arm and is mis-installed.

Here's my '67, original parts since '67. View attachment 166182 View attachment 166183

geeteeohguy said:
Your water pump pulley is wrong and your upper mount is missing the support arm and is mis-installed.

Here's my '67, original parts since '67. View attachment 166182 View attachment 166183

THANKS! Not my car, but a car in the shop. I work on every customers' car if it was my own. Is there any source for the correct brackets? Thanks again.

geeteeohguy

· #6 · 10 d ago

KrisKringle said:
THANKS! Not my car, but a car in the shop. I work on every customers' car if it was my own. Is there any source for the correct brackets? Thanks again.

Try the PY/AMEs forums, AMES Pontiac parts, Franks Pontiac parts, etc. That aluminum lower Power steering pump mount needs to be replaced as well. Never seen one broken like that. Likely too big a bolt.

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #7 · 10 d ago

geeteeohguy said:
Franks Pontiac parts

Thanks, I found the bracket from Franks, I will give them a call in a minute. (I have an American Telephone number here in Germany.) Unfortunately, the aluminium lower bracket has been sold. The car has no power steering.

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #8 · 10 d ago

I ordered the upper bracket from Franks, and I have to say that this was the most uncomfortable and unsecure purchase that I have ever made in my life. Sending a copy of my credit card, sharing the security code? Crap. I hope that this does not go sideways. I still need the aluminium lower support. Welding cast aluminium is not something I have a lot of faith in.

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Sick467

· #9 · 10 d ago

Frank's Pontiac Parts is a good place to buy from even though their web site is not fancy. You'll have no problem with them, I've bought a several hundred dollars worth of parts without any issues.

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #10 · 9 d ago

Sick467 said:
Frank's Pontiac Parts is a good place to buy from even though their web site is not fancy. You'll have no problem with them, I've bought a several hundred dollars worth of parts without any issues.

They appear to be on the level. Shortly after sending the information, I received an email telling me that the brackets are for a car with power steering, and that they don't have the ones for manual steering <<sigh>>

Day Hawk

· #11 · 9 d ago

OK. I am having problems with the posting of the photos. In the photos, you can see what I am dealing with. I can fix the broken mount, welding it up and making it pretty are not the issue.
How should it look with the bracket for the tensioner?

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #12 · 9 d ago

HELP! Ist there a difference between the top bracket (strap) for Power steering, and Manual Steering?

armyadarkness

· #13 · 9 d ago

KrisKringle said:
Welding cast aluminium is not something I have a lot of faith in.

I weld cast aluminum all of the time. If you can weld aluminum, then it's easy. Just clean the crap out of it.

armyadarkness

· #14 · 9 d ago

Day Hawk said:
OK. I am having problems with the posting of the photos. In the photos, you can see what I am dealing with. I can fix the broken mount, welding it up and making it pretty are not the issue.
How should it look with the bracket for the tensioner?

What you need to do is to apply a generous coating of Tobasco sauce to your nuts, then use your wifes mustache trimmer to give em' a nice close shave.

armyadarkness

· #15 · 9 d ago

KrisKringle said:
HELP! Ist there a difference between the top bracket (strap) for Power steering, and Manual Steering?

That I dont know... but considering that manual steering has no pump, Im going to say... YES, there's a difference.

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #16 · 9 d ago

armyadarkness said:
What you need to do is to apply a generous coating of Tobasco sauce to your nuts, then use your wifes mustache trimmer to give em' a nice close shave.

Shite. I almost pissed myself laughing.

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #17 · 9 d ago

armyadarkness said:
I weld cast aluminum all of the time. If you can weld aluminum, then it's easy. Just clean the crap out of it.

Jep, I have done it as well, but the old aluminium has a shite load of crap in it, and this is not my car. I only want to deliver premium work. I found one on eBay. Still missing the rear bracket though.

KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #18 · 9 d ago

armyadarkness said:
That I dont know... but considering that manual steering has no pump, Im going to say... YES, there's a difference.

I wonder, though. If the alternator is in the same position, then they should be the same. The only difference that I can see is with the lower bracket.

O52

· #19 · 9 d ago

Ames Part Detail

Only one upper bracket for manual steering.

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KrisKringle

Discussion Starter · #20 · 9 d ago

O52 said:
Ames Part Detail

Only one upper bracket for manual steering.

Thanks.

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