I went to the Central California Pontiac and Oldsmobile car show today in Madera, CA. Jim Wangers was there, and I got to spend some time with him. He told me the story of how Verdoro Green came to be, and also shared some information on the Tiger Gold cars of '65 and '66 and what a problem the paint was under warranty with adhesion problems. I showed him my '67 in the parking lot (I didn't enter my car, just drove it up there) and to my delight he approved of the color change from Signet Gold to Flambeau Burgundy. I shared with him my history with the car, and he seemed happy that I've had it so long and have racked up so many miles on it. I wished him a happy 85th birthday a month in advance and shook his hand. Mr. Wangers is truly a one of a kind guy....hardcore "car guy" all the way through, and the main reason we have the GTO and the HUrst shifter in the GTO from day one. A class act, and he seems healthy and in good form. Hopefully, he will be with us for a long time yet to come. Also met some other Pontiac guys with some neat rides (one was a '56 StarCheif with the original 316 but fitted with a '58 Bonneville fuel injection that had been converted to electronic) and another with a Tiger Gold factory AC '65. Unfortunately, none of these guys have computers and are not participating on any forums. Anyway, it was a great day for a cruise (in the 70's here), and great to see Jim again. He had his Royal Bobcat '65 post coupe there for sale.....neat car!!