Ya know it's crazy, I worked for the same company sience '98. And every time we start negations on the union contract they swear up and down there going to close the doors if we don't settle on just a few cents on the hour. Well this time they offered a hole $1.60 over the next 3 years that’s .53 cents more an hour every year for the next 3 years:rofl: not only that, but we deal in a lot of government service contracts which we are misclassified to begin with:willy: it's just crazy when all they have to do is give us the right classification and the pay rate to go with it. But I have had it if there going to close the doors on it, I say go ahead I know it's going to hurt them more than me!!! I know this has nothing to do with anything on this site but **** it's aggravating!