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Well, actually 4 races. All against the same car- a 2008 LS3 Vette. I didn't even stand a chance. By second gear he had a car length on me, and third was just embarrasing. Only went to like 100mph because by then he had buslengths on me. Hell, one race he missed third gear and still beat me. Cool kid though. He said he used to own an LS2 GTO and he is a member of LS1GTO.com. He is completely stock except he has HPTuners and tunes his car himself. He told me he ran the car at ATCO and got an 11.7 run out of it. Really nice car, it was black. Oh well, time to get some serious mods!
 

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Don't be embarrased by that one. Your car runs smooth and powerful and yes, you can make it faster. I was at a Pontiac Car show yesterday and it was great!. Some of the older GTO's decided to leave the show flooring it or burning some rubber and I can tell you that more than half of the older GTO's were not in tune, left tons of oil smoke, and even skipped timing so that wuld be embarrasing in my mind.
I just went through the gears when leaving and my 05 sounded smooth, powerful and sweat.
 

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Cool death! But in all honesty, changing the stock tune means that his car is not completely stock. A very good tuner can pull up to 30 hp from the stock tune and regardless of how much he got from his tuning it helped him put a whooping on you. Death to a Vette isn't too bad. It's almost expected if you don't have a few good mods.
 

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It's almost expected if you don't have a few good mods.
Yeah, I knew I was going to lose but I didn't think it would be that bad. I also found out how weak the stock clutch on these cars is as well. We went from a dig one time and my clutch protested like a bunch of pro-lifers at an abortion clinic. I smelled clutch the whole way home.
 

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There is one guy that ran an 11.71 with the showroom stock LS3 on the Vette forum. The rest are clustered at 12.4 and 12.5 except for a guy at 12.18. The speeds for the LS3 range from 114-115 ecept for the one 12.18 which is at 117 and the 11.7 guy is at 119.

My guess is they got some mods they forgot about, kinda like the guy you ran. There is a bunch of 08's with a CAI and a tune that are running that 11.7 number. Most of those cars match the speeds of 117-119.

Nice death, mod the crap out of it and go find him again, but tell him it's still stock. Oh except for a tune. LOL.
 

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Hey, I wouldn't feel that bad. I went to a drag strip to race one of my co-workers who has a modded V-6 Mustang (CAI, custom exhaust), ugh I know. So we crossed paths at a local drag strip. He of course challenged me, and normally I would not waste my time racing cars that equal to my GTO in terms of performace.

Anyways we get on the line, and when it is time to light them up, I accidentally put my tranny in 6, and bam, the engine stalls, and I look like a total jerk clown.

So hopefully now, you do not feel embarassed about losing to an LS3, some of us here have suffered much worse deaths! Just be careful out there!
 

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Anyways we get on the line, and when it is time to light them up, I accidentally put my tranny in 6, and bam, the engine stalls, and I look like a total jerk clown.

So hopefully now, you do not feel embarassed about losing to an LS3, some of us here have suffered much worse deaths! Just be careful out there!
lol I'm not sure what caused you to make that mistake? Sixth gear is on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Must have been something to do with the car, or a "little weener," or something along those lines.

And why wouldn't you "waste your time with cars that equal your GTO in terms of performance?"
 

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Or, it could be because Pontiac was striving to go more European when they made your GTO, and thats what made you stall out while wasting your time trying to get your car in first gear against a worthy foe.

But in all honesty, that was probably uncalled for and off topic. Just joshin.
 

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New Ride Fergy? I haven't been on the forum much lately.
Looks sweet!!!!
Pulled up a picture of my old C6.

GM has a 3000 rebate on the 07 C6 with the LS2. They also have a 1000 rebate on the 08 C6 with the LS3. Either that or maybe a C5 Z06 again.

I'm kinda thinking of going back to the future.

The Cavalier just really isn't avatar, or picture worthy.
 

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Pulled up a picture of my old C6.

GM has a 3000 rebate on the 07 C6 with the LS2. They also have a 1000 rebate on the 08 C6 with the LS3. Either that or maybe a C5 Z06 again.

I'm kinda thinking of going back to the future.

The Cavalier just really isn't avatar, or picture worthy.
Dammit Fergy, just get a C6 Z06 and be done with it. You know you want to. :cool

Oh yeah, about the 08 Vette. He even popped his hood and it looked stock right down to the air filter. I don't know what they can get with a tune but it must be alot.
 

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lol I'm not sure what caused you to make that mistake? Sixth gear is on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Must have been something to do with the car, or a "little weener," or something along those lines.

And why wouldn't you "waste your time with cars that equal your GTO in terms of performance?"
i put my car in reverse once during a race...i think the buslengths multiplied so quickly that it wasn't even funny. the guy asked what happened? i told him someone switched my shifter on me between the time i got in the car and the time i got to the line.and that i was in the wrong gear for a nice powerful take off so i backed out the race quickly.:lol:
 

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Dammit Fergy, just get a C6 Z06 and be done with it. You know you want to. :cool

Oh yeah, about the 08 Vette. He even popped his hood and it looked stock right down to the air filter. I don't know what they can get with a tune but it must be alot.
I'm extremely analytical. It will take at least 2 months before I pull the triger.

Actualy the C6 Z06 has been pretty much eliminated. After finding out that I'm going to get hassled racing it at local tracks, I think I'd rather have a C6 or a real clean C5 Z06.

Before I'll do anything I'll drive a GT500 and a Saleen car too. I might just get a plain C5 too. I found a completely loaded, selective ride, HUD, Bose, sport seats, memory package, A4 with performance gears 02 with 25,000 miles for mid 20's too.

I looked at 2 different ZR1's this weekend too. An Admiral Blue and a Ruby Red 40th aniversery car. I liked that C4 I had a lot. The Ruby Red is a very rare car, only 40 ZR1's in that color is what the guy told me. They also had an Admiral Blue ZR1 that had 95 miles on it. The blue one I looked at had 32,000 miles and they wanted $40,000 for it.

I'll drive a GTO or two if I can find exactly what I'm looking for before the final decision is made. I'm in no hurry.
 

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i put my car in reverse once during a race...i think the buslengths multiplied so quickly that it wasn't even funny. the guy asked what happened? i told him someone switched my shifter on me between the time i got in the car and the time i got to the line.and that i was in the wrong gear for a nice powerful take off so i backed out the race quickly.:lol:
I've seen some funny stuff at the starting line of a drag strip.

A friend got a cell phone call just as he staged. He answered the phone for some reason too.

Another friend got a cell phone call while he was bracket racing and red lighted in the finals.

Another friend with a heads and cam Camaro left the traction control on. He launched hard and the thing started out hard and just about died. He was thrown back from the hard launch and then from the traction control cutting everything and it dieing smashed his head into the steering wheel. He had the worst case of whiplash ever from it.

Another guy left his parking brake on.

A friend on his first run ever at a strip with his modified Camaro launched at 3500 rpms and mashed the gas. It spun till it hit the rev limiter. He power shifted to second, spun through second and powershifted to 3rd. I guess the adrenaline was really flowing cause you guessed it, he spun through 4th and hit 5th. At this point he was about 200' down the track. When he hit 5th the car bogged and almost stalled.
 

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I'm extremely analytical. It will take at least 2 months before I pull the triger.

Actualy the C6 Z06 has been pretty much eliminated. After finding out that I'm going to get hassled racing it at local tracks, I think I'd rather have a C6 or a real clean C5 Z06.
A GTO would be an excellent choice but why not buy a C6 Z06 and debadge it?
 

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A GTO would be an excellent choice but why not buy a C6 Z06 and debadge it?
With the wide body and the hood scoop, they would figure out real fast that it wasn't a C6. Also when I clicked off a mid elevens 1/4 mile there'd be an NHRA official at my window.

Low 12's very high 11's and not having to woryy about modifying the car would make me :)
 

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C5 Z06 is probably still my favorite car. I was aiming for a C5 before I got the GTO, but the only one that was close to me that I was interested in was a 2000 Red Coupe with 59k miles, Bunch of codes in the system, the dealer was run by amatuers that didnt know how to sell a car to someone. They actually told me " Yeah man its a really great car, Actually our VP of sales drives it twice a day to bring us lunch, and on rainy days, man it is a fun car!" As if thats going to help make a sale... And of all that the car was priced at 23k, Rather gladly took the 06 GTO with only 15k miles for 22.7k.
Get the C5 Z06 Ferg!!! :willy: :willy:
 

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There is one guy that ran an 11.71 with the showroom stock LS3 on the Vette forum. The rest are clustered at 12.4 and 12.5 except for a guy at 12.18. The speeds for the LS3 range from 114-115 ecept for the one 12.18 which is at 117 and the 11.7 guy is at 119.

My guess is they got some mods they forgot about, kinda like the guy you ran. There is a bunch of 08's with a CAI and a tune that are running that 11.7 number. Most of those cars match the speeds of 117-119.

Nice death, mod the crap out of it and go find him again, but tell him it's still stock. Oh except for a tune. LOL.


I don't care what some of those guys say I too belive someone forgot to mention the tune they got the week before. Hell the guy who ran the 11.71 was on there asking about tunes two weeks before his 100% stock run. Also it is very wierd to see trap speed increase so much with a better ET like that.

I have run into a few LS3's in my car and I must say the extra power can easily be erased by driver skill. Even when decently driven the largest loss I suffered was my front wheel at his rear.
 

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Damn, those LS3 Vettes are nice, but definitely no shame in losing to one! I ran one a few weeks ago in my Z28 and only put about a car and a half to two cars on him from 60-140 (only time I've EVER gone that fast on the street and it was because no one was around and I wanted to see how I would do top end). This was with a 400rwhp Z28, so those LS3s are just plain sick!
 
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