I see the Monaros have a nice high zoot climate control system in their cars, while we get the cheesy (probably my only real knock on the GTO), twisty knob climate controls. I was wondering if there's a source for buying parts, and whether they'd bolt onto a GTO.
Monaro Parts available in US?
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Actually, I think the three knob climate control system is the ultimate evolution of automotive design & ergonomics. I had exactly the same setup in a Volvo 850 Turbo for ten years. Simple, easy to operate day or night, and reliable. It's one of the GTO features that sold me on the car.
In contrast, some electronic systems I've seen use small hard to find buttons in a confusing arrangement. As for the systems that have "soft" buttons integrated into a Nav system touch screen, no thanks. Those are uniformly horrible. Good way to get yourself killed.
As for "dual climate controls", dude you're in a box 4 feet by 3 feet by 7 feet. How much do you think the "climate" is gonna differ from one side of the car to the other?
Nope, sometimes analog controls beat digital hands down. That's why you don't see electronic speedos and tachs. They suck. I had an 87 vette with electronic dash. That was easily the worst feature of the car IMHO. Distracting at night and nowhere near as quick to read with a glance. Notice they're history.
In contrast, some electronic systems I've seen use small hard to find buttons in a confusing arrangement. As for the systems that have "soft" buttons integrated into a Nav system touch screen, no thanks. Those are uniformly horrible. Good way to get yourself killed.
As for "dual climate controls", dude you're in a box 4 feet by 3 feet by 7 feet. How much do you think the "climate" is gonna differ from one side of the car to the other?
Nope, sometimes analog controls beat digital hands down. That's why you don't see electronic speedos and tachs. They suck. I had an 87 vette with electronic dash. That was easily the worst feature of the car IMHO. Distracting at night and nowhere near as quick to read with a glance. Notice they're history.
I hear what you guys are saying about simplicity, and I agree to a point. My wifes Armada is rediculously complicated to adjust when driving. The rest of the car exhudes quality, I'm just not enamored of a design that reminds me of my 1980 Saab. So no one knows, yeah or nay, of a source to order or price parts from the Monaro, or whether it would fit the GTO?
http://www.jhp.com.au/index.php
Geoff there at JHP seems a good guy, and has a very good rep. But importing fascia, etc is expen$ive.
Geoff there at JHP seems a good guy, and has a very good rep. But importing fascia, etc is expen$ive.
Apparently there is a lot of work required between temp sensors, fan actuators, servos, etc to get the system working. On ls1gto.com someone investigated it and it was going to be on on the order of $2500 or more just for the parts to make it work. I couldn't find the exact thread but here is one that references it (with no links)GNX231 said:
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7174&highlight=climate+control
Here's another webiste a customer of mine in Oz. www.capa.com.au
Someone wrote capa's been mentioned in other threads, too.
Back in October I had a GMH employee in Oz write he'd sell some Holden badges a few of us here wanted, but then he disappeared. I think THEY got him after intercepting our emails as I never heard from him again. So, beware.
Someone wrote capa's been mentioned in other threads, too.
Back in October I had a GMH employee in Oz write he'd sell some Holden badges a few of us here wanted, but then he disappeared. I think THEY got him after intercepting our emails as I never heard from him again. So, beware.
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