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I am waiting on a list of answers from the seller. After some research on my own it appears the engine is a 400 from a 67 full size car and not original to this car. How does this impact the current value. Thanks in advance.

What are your thoughts on an offer price? I put this together so they can understand.

2021 retail value on a numbers matching 1967 Pontiac GTO(Pic Attached)
Poor Condition 15400
Good Condition 27500
Excellent Condition 53625
In Between Good & Excellent Condition 40500
Minus 15% Non Numbers Matching 34425

Current Car For Sale as an example.
Pontiac GTO
 

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Does the engine have the spreadbore intake with Quadrajet?
67 was a transition year for intakes. Some big cars received the Carter AFB, others, like the GTO, received the QJ.

Does the A/C work? Cracked dash pad, non stock wheels.
Consider those factors to repair, replace, in addition to the 15% off due to non-matching numbers.

Not seeing the under car, I'd say 35K


Year EngineHPEngine codeTransCRCamHead CodeBBLCarb No.Misc
1967400350 HPXJA10.50666701-44242SGP A/C Block Casting # 9786133
1969428360 HPXJA10.5067461-47029263Block Casting # 9792968
1973455250 HPXJA8.00674X1-47043262Block Casting # 485428
1977400180 HPXJA7.67936X1-417057274Block Casting # 500557
1978400180 HPXJA7.74716X1-417058274Block Casting # 568557/500557
 

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In my neighborhood, numbers matching dramatically adds value. That car also has power windows and AC, so the price goes down on the engine, and then back up on the options. From the pictures, it looks like a $35-$40 K car, but there are a lot of critical photos missing. If it was well maintained and runs as good as it looks, then it's worth mid to high $30's. To go beyond that, it has to be either frame off restored or all original.

Appraisers are looking for rare options on the high dollar collectors. Having the 360 HP vs the 335 HP, has a big impact on price, so just imagine how much the incorrect engine will.

At the end of the day, if it's clean and you like it, offer a fair price and take it. It's not like there are many more behind it. Don't discount how much that numbers matching matters... I see frame off restoration tribute clones going for $28k. Think about that and then consider how much originality affects price.
 

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Here's a 67 which has been for sale for a LONG time, at $33k. It is nice and it has had a ton of work to get it looking like a GTO, plus it hasvery desirable upgrades. If it were a real GTO, it would be a $48-$65k car. If you ask me, based on what I've seen.
 

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The 67 that I posted isn't worth more than $25k or so.
 

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I'm thinking 30-35k if it's as nice as it looks and you really want it. Don't plan on making any money if you want to flip it.
I'm with Jerry but....Be nice to know if the engine has been rebuilt and when. Paperwork on that would be a must, you don't wanna go two years down the road and cam or something else is going out and end up with 6-10k bill.
 

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It looks very nice - and looks to have retained all the factory options (can't see the exhaust extensions), the interior is SWEET. You'll have to settle on what it's worth TO YOU. Does it come with tons of documentation or spare parts? Haggerty will insure for any reasonable value.
 
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It doesnt sell because its an auto or girly car.
 

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It doesnt sell because its an auto or girly car.
The photos are bad. White car in a white room with black and white tile. The pictures look altered for dramatic effect. The engine compartment looks like I set it up in 1988 with a $20 budget. It doent look like it was prepped to sell looks like they drove it to the consignment shop and was told to sell it and dont spend money to do it.
 

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It doesnt sell because its an auto or girly car.
In my opinion, it doesn't sell because it's no longer ANYTHING (it's not a GTO, and it's no longer a Lemans), but it's priced as a well maintained GTO. Most people buying a GTO, want to see "242", and the ones that are willing to overlook that, want the car cheap.

That's just my opinion.

Yes, everyone knows that the GTO option is the famous, top of the line gem, but as I've mentioned before, my Lemans was WAY MORE luxurious than my GTO, and loaded with options. So an all original, well maintained Lemans or Tempest, could easily bring in GTO money.

This is why it's so important to decide what you're doing, before you do it...
  1. Are you going to keep the car?
  2. Driver or show car?
  3. Restomod or all original?
If you're keeping the car, then do whatever you like. If you're selling it, then you better keep it all original. If the car isn't original now, then it's a good platform for a clone or restomod.

Right now, you can sell an all original GTO, Lemans, or Tempest, to anyone who loves GTO style muscle cars. But once you make it a restomod, then you can only sell it to someone who like what you like.

That GTO clone is selling for $32k, which is GTO money. So... if you want a GTO, and the car is trying to be a GTO, then why would you buy a fake for the price of the real one?

As far as the market is concerned, it would be worth more if it were a clean version of whatever it was, originally.
 

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I am waiting on a list of answers from the seller. After some research on my own it appears the engine is a 400 from a 67 full size car and not original to this car. How does this impact the current value. Thanks in advance.

What are your thoughts on an offer price? I put this together so they can understand.

2021 retail value on a numbers matching 1967 Pontiac GTO(Pic Attached)
Poor Condition 15400
Good Condition 27500
Excellent Condition 53625
In Between Good & Excellent Condition 40500
Minus 15% Non Numbers Matching 34425

Current Car For Sale as an example.
Pontiac GTO
Like the NADA book on your daily car, numbers are only a guide not bible. Problem with collector car guides is you can look at 10 different guides and get 10 different numbers. TV auction numbers should never be followed.

Just based on the photos alone I see enough issues to comfortably say that this is a $26,000.00 to $27,500.00 car if you had to have it. There are many nicer ones out there for $30,000.00 if you take time and look.
 
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