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New Paint Cut and Buff

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Just got my car back from paint and the color is great, but there are dust nibs and some orange peel in the clear. I know this is typical and I need a cut and buff. Do I need to contact a paint and body shop for this, or should I be contacting a detailer?
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I would contact the painter.
I'm obviously not happy with the outcome here, so I won't be going back to him.
The trick with cutting, not that I have done much, but...you don't know how much clear is on there and how much sanding/cutting will cut through. Orange peel can be wet sanded out, but it is a very touchy thing. If you get into the base coat, your need to respray that area with clear and sand and buff again. As far as dust nibs...some cut out, some don't, but may get less obvious.

I would have expected the common paint shop to finish out the job, but it sounds like you are beyond that. I would expect to wet sand the clear until smooth (through TO the paint or not) and re-spray the whole thing...but, that's just worst case. Just don't cut through the base coat to where primer shows...easier said than done!

These last details is why paint jobs cost sooooo much...a lot of experience to minimize the elbow grease and still a lot of elbow grease.
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I'm obviously not happy with the outcome here, so I won't be going back to him.
Going elsewhere first will leave you no recourse with the painter if you decide to pursue a refund or an adjustment. Once you or another touches the job, he is off the hook.
Sounds like it was a free or very inexpensive paint job?
Talked with the painter again and we're going to be able to work it out, I think.
Talked with the painter again and we're going to be able to work it out, I think.
Tell him you hope this gets resolved. Then you will be able to say good things about him on the GTO forum to other classic car owners. If not: he should be able to connect the dots. Bring up the Chevelle and Corvette forums to bolster your case (you can join them if necessary).
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Talked with the painter again and we're going to be able to work it out, I think.
Hope so - keep us posted.

Both can be fixed (provided the clear is thick enough), but see what he's able to do with it first.

Cut and buff won't fix orange peel, that's going to require wet sanding to take out/ flatten the surface and THEN cut and buff to restore the gloss. Easiest way to deal with dust nibs is to use a trick I learned from Kevin Tetz's "Paintucation" videos. Single edge razor blade, "stropped" in one direction across some 400 paper a few times to create a burr along the edge, then bent into a curve so that the burr is on the "outside" radius of the curve. You've just made a tiny plane. Lightly drag the burr over the nib with the top of the blade angled toward you to shave it down (this is why you bent it into a curve - makes the contact area very small and also keeps the blade corners from digging into the paint). After the nib is gone, then wet sand, cut, buff to get the gloss back.
Works like a charm - just take your time and don't get too aggressive with it. The same technique works for taking out runs.

FYI, you can find a bunch of videos about this on youtube, with different variations, however I've not found any of them that include the step of creating a burr along one side of the blade. I believe that to be a key part of the process.

Bear
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