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doing an engine swap on a 64 GTO... New motor is a dec 63 build 421. Motor has block mount starter provision. After swapping over the stock 64 389 starter, the flywheel ring gear appears to be too far out, leading to its position at the end of the starter shaft. I'm pretty sure I have the right flywheel, but there is clearly an issue... Thoughts?


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First, the end of the crank hub is smaller on the pre-1964 cranks and need a spacer to use the later flywheel. Did you install one of these? Butler sells these:


The flywheel and starter gear are all the same. I checked 1963 and on up. Below is the specs for the flywheel teeth and starter teeth.

It may be possible that you need a "421" starter. I could not find anything concrete, but it may have used a longer nose and bendix. It looks to me in the pictures that the "stop" bushing could be removed/modified to allow the gear to extend further. But, the bendix would have to be able to pull the gear out to mate with the flywheel teeth.

Have you tried to manually pull the starter gear out to see how it meshes with the ring gear?

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it meshes, but only about 1/2 of the ring gear, and I had to shim it out further to clear the stop bushing... 65 crank, flywheel bolted right on... a longer nose would solve the problem, do they make such
a unicorn?
it meshes, but only about 1/2 of the ring gear, and I had to shim it out further to clear the stop bushing... 65 crank, flywheel bolted right on... a longer nose would solve the problem, do they make such
a unicorn?
A starter rebuild shop would most likely be able to answer that.

But, I found this over at PY. A mini starter might be the way to go and then have the spacer block on the mini starter milled to move the starter body/gear forward. And, with a mini starter, you can clock the solenoid down and away from the exhaust manifold/headers to keep it away from the heat.

read this:

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funny, I found that same thread! I did a quick search for a 64 full sized started, couldn't find one, the mini might have to be the way i go... still hoping someone will chime in here too! Thanks Jim!
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What Jim Said. Also, not to be mean, but the amount of silicone on your valley pan rail is scary. I lost a 428 once because the previous owner gooped on so much silicone that it got sucked into the oiling system.
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