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MM&FF just did a story on the 08 GT500 Super Snake. Pretty insane. That bad boy ran 10.87 @ 134 with just a set of drag radials and 93 octane fuel. Should be an interest 1/4 mile against the ZR1!
 

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MM&FF just did a story on the 08 GT500 Super Snake. Pretty insane. That bad boy ran 10.87 @ 134 with just a set of drag radials and 93 octane fuel. Should be an interest 1/4 mile against the ZR1!
Is MM&FF dedicated to Mustangs and Ford? If so, I hope the mods and those numbers are 100% true. If they are then they are impressive. Mind you, in the right hands Z06s have run numbers better than that so I would think that a ZR1 could do even better in the right hands. How much are the Super Snakes?
 

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MM&FF just did a story on the 08 GT500 Super Snake. Pretty insane. That bad boy ran 10.87 @ 134 with just a set of drag radials and 93 octane fuel. Should be an interest 1/4 mile against the ZR1!
Do you have the HP numbers? My calculations for the weight, time and trap is 668 bhp. Road and Track's number are a little less, The ZR1 is rated 30 more hp and 600 lbs lighter. Should be a good race!
 

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MM&FF just did a story on the 08 GT500 Super Snake. Pretty insane. That bad boy ran 10.87 @ 134 with just a set of drag radials and 93 octane fuel. Should be an interest 1/4 mile against the ZR1!
What one was that the 605 or the 725 horse? Was that with Ivan Smith whatever is name is? In my Dec07 of R&T the 605hp 590tq puts 567hp and 533tq at the wheels. ZR1's run low 11's at 135ish in stock trim(in mags) and Z06's done that in stock trim with around 125ish trap speed. So drag radials on a ZR1 and a good driver would get kicked off the track.
 

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GM High Tech Performance got 12.9 out of a bone stock Camaro SS. They got a C5 Z06 to dip into the 11's.

MM& FF has been able to get an 03-04 Cobra to run 12.4 when new. They got an S197 Mustang to run a 13.4. They've been able to get the fat pig GT500 to run into the low 12's stock.

I'm not sure how these two magazines get their cars to run the great numbers they do, but I look to them as the exception and not the rule.

Of course this is coming from a guy that got his stock GTO into the 12's. But then again it took me about 5 months to get the C6 running 2-3 tenths better than the GTO. Maybe there is something to the factory freak thing and these two mags get more than their fair share.
 

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found on the road dead thats a ford thats all they are good for .they are no dependable never have been trans suck in the motors as well . best tran is made by gm for stock car go crash that stang
 

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found on the road dead thats a ford thats all they are good for .they are no dependable never have been trans suck in the motors as well . best tran is made by gm for stock car go crash that stang
I must say, your pretty much just talking out of your..... ah nevermind
 

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I'm not sure how these two magazines get their cars to run the great numbers they do, but I look to them as the exception and not the rule.
Ideal conditions, powershifted, prepped track, cool downs, playing with tire pressure. I agree - they show the potential, not the norm.

gm4life, what magazines with disclosed procedures trapped 135ish in the ZR1?
 

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Ideal conditions, powershifted, prepped track, cool downs, playing with tire pressure. I agree - they show the potential, not the norm.

gm4life, what magazines with disclosed procedures trapped 135ish in the ZR1?
GMHTP hasn't tested a ZR1 yet have they????

Several ZR1 owners are now reporting 10.7-10.8 times at 130-132.

Remeber, we aren't talking about a measly 400hp car here, we are talking about a car that is dyno'ing in the 530-550 rwhp range and has 500 ft/lbs of torque at 3000 rpms. There is a learning curve to it. I'm sure the guys at MM&FF didn't just jump in the car and run the numbers they ran. I'd bet they spent a couple of days figuring the car out with numerous passes to get the numbers they got.

What your trying to do by asking GM4life the question you did is compare Car and Driver and Road and Track to MM& FF times. In reverse I don't see you comparing a S197 Mustang GT's time of 13.7 or a GT500's time of 13.1 to the 12.9 that GMHTP got for the Camaro SS and saying that the SS is faster than the GT500 stock for stock or 8 tenths quicker than a stock S197.

Just for the record, there are guys in bonestock C6 Z06's on street tires running what the mags have gotten for the ZR1. You have a 10.981 at 128.9 and a 11.138 at 127.2 in the Z06 right now as the top times. With drag tires they are running 10.831 at 130.05 and 10.826 at 129.5.

Once the ZR1 gets some track times, with a 100+ more hp at the wheels than a Z06 you will see mid to upper 130mph slips coming in.
 

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I'm well aware of C6Z times. I have the fast list book marked. You also partially answered your own question you raised.

I didn't compare anything. Yet. I simply asked for the source so I can research it myself. I would also like to see the 10.7-10.8 times at 130-132mph as well.

I'll predict right now there will never be a 138mph bone stock ZR1 trap speed and probably 1-2 at 136-137mph. If that.

Furman ran an 11.07 @ 130mph in his bone stock ACR, btw.
 

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What one was that the 605 or the 725 horse? Was that with Ivan Smith whatever is name is? In my Dec07 of R&T the 605hp 590tq puts 567hp and 533tq at the wheels. ZR1's run low 11's at 135ish in stock trim(in mags) and Z06's done that in stock trim with around 125ish trap speed. So drag radials on a ZR1 and a good driver would get kicked off the track.
They were testing the top of the line 725 HP edition.
 

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mmff got a 11.5 out of the gt500 kr 550hp and the super snake725hp [email protected] either way it fast but for 100k plus !!!! thats insane!!
The Super Snake comes in at around 75 grand assuming you can get a GT500 at sticker. The super snake is a Gt500 they send to Shelby and for 32 grand you get a Ken Bell Blower, suspension upgrades and bigger brakes. It's a ton of performance for the money.
 

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gm4life, what magazines with disclosed procedures trapped 135ish in the ZR1?
My mistake its more like 11.2 @130.5 that was from Motor Trend YouTube - 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Test and it was in my Jan 09 issue of Motor Trend.
GMHTP hasn't tested a ZR1 yet have they????

Several ZR1 owners are now reporting 10.7-10.8 times at 130-132.

Once the ZR1 gets some track times, with a 100+ more hp at the wheels than a Z06 you will see mid to upper 130mph slips coming in.
GMHTP haven't done one yet, I'm waiting for it.

I'm well aware of C6Z times. I have the fast list book marked. You also partially answered your own question you raised.

I would also like to see the 10.7-10.8 times at 130-132mph as well.


Furman ran an 11.07 @ 130mph in his bone stock ACR, btw.
10.7-10.8 in the 130 is possable with better driver with more time, track prep and weather; just look at the stock times published by GM 11.3 @ 131 GM Media Online. If GM published 11.7 @ 125 for the C6 Z06 and people have got bone stock Z06 to 10.9 @ 126 why can't the ZR1 do it?


Please keep it on topic this time.
 

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If I had deep pockets like Jay Leno, I'd probably buy the most hyped up Super Snake available as an investment only. Not an investment that will sit in the garage though. I would drive it at least 3 times. But since I don't have the money that's probably underneath his couch cushions, I can't afford to buy a model of the Super Snake unless it has a salvage title on it. :eek:
 

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If GM published 11.7 @ 125 for the C6 Z06 and people have got bone stock Z06 to 10.9 @ 126 why can't the ZR1 do it?
I don't understand the question. My opinion is that 136-137mph trap speeds may not be seen or very rare. No doubt it will hit 10s, I just want to know details.
 
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