[Aldo_45030]

Has anyone had this issue? Here are the arms i purchased seem to be good contruction with a few hick ups to over come during install. Have yet to drive to see if it was worht the time and effort.

FYI did require some modifications to fit a 67 as the mounting bracket on the frame for the control arm shaft is larger than the jig these were welded on and the arm rubbed. Maybe this is the difference between a 68 and 67. I did change the ball joints out with standard moogs prior to the install. I would also recommend to anyone to try to pump grease into the fitting prior to install as some accept grease easily and other do not. Seems the bushing may rotate blocking the grease path.
Back to the shock issue i contacted the seller he responded quickly and was not able to offer any support in shock selection or provide any manufacturer information to contact.
So I am seeking help from my tribe brother hood, i currently have 1 year old KYB's PN# 343128 and the appear to be short. I am assuming the shock pocket is deeper than stock since that is what it looks like to me.

 

[armyadarkness]

EASY enough to run a tape measure up through the pocket. If you put the wrong arms on the car, though, I think you would be opening yourself up to multiple things being different.

Obviously, find out whether 67 and 68 use the same length shock

 

[67ventwindow]

How short are we talking about?


1967 shock
Manufacturer's Part Number:
343128
Part Type:
Shocks and Struts
Product Line:
KYB Excel-G Gas Shocks and Struts
Summit Racing Part Number:
KYB-343128
UPC:
781552431282
Ride Height:
Stock
Extended Length (in.):
15.16
Collapsed Length (in.):
9.45

The 68 shock
Summit Racing Part Number:
KYB-343127
UPC:
781552431275
Ride Height:
Stock
Extended Length (in.):
13.58
Collapsed Length (in.):
8.66

 

[armyadarkness]

Makes no sense... he has a 67, which uses longer shocks... but his shocks are too short?

 

[67ventwindow]

There were a couple of those kits that had drop spring pockets.

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[armyadarkness]

But wouldnt a dropped pocket lower the car?

 

[Aldo_45030]

I have yet to drive it maybe i am wrong. Is it normal to jack the wheel up to install the top bushing, washer and nut?
I can see the extention being more when jacked up as the upper bump stop is to be removed which in turn would allow it to drop further down. I doubt that will be an issue on the street but i want the clearence for when i take it off some sweet jumps.

 

[Aldo_45030]

But wouldnt a dropped pocket lower the car?

That is my understating

 

[Aldo_45030]

How short are we talking about?


1967 shock
Manufacturer's Part Number:
343128
Part Type:
Shocks and Struts
Product Line:
KYB Excel-G Gas Shocks and Struts
Summit Racing Part Number:
KYB-343128
UPC:
781552431282
Ride Height:
Stock
Extended Length (in.):
15.16
Collapsed Length (in.):
9.45

The 68 shock
Summit Racing Part Number:
KYB-343127
UPC:
781552431275
Ride Height:
Stock
Extended Length (in.):
13.58
Collapsed Length (in.):
8.66

not sure yet guessing 1" ish

 

[Aldo_45030]

There were a couple of those kits that had drop spring pockets.

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How do you add that link?

 

[armyadarkness]

Well, 67 shocks are longer than 68... and so your shocks should be too long, not too short.

 

[Aldo_45030]

Well, 67 shocks are longer than 68... and so your shocks should be too long, not too short.

I am thinking the pocket location is deeper than stock.

 

[67ventwindow]

Looking at the summit and the Heidts kits they all say the coil spring is to be compressed to install shock.. Also are there shims under you pads in the lower a arms. Some have them.

https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/sum-770250.pdf

 

[armyadarkness]

I am thinking the pocket location is deeper than stock.

Well, maybe Im a bigger idiot than I thought, but IMO, lowering the pocket, also lowers the top. In other words, regardless of pocket depth, the distance is established by the coil spring.

I would set the car down, tires on the ground, install 67 shocks, and be done.

 

[O52]

I've always replaced shocks with the car on the ground or with blocks under the tire.

 

[Aldo_45030]

Looking at the summit and the Heidts kits they all say the coil spring is to be compressed to install shock.. Also are there shims under you pads in the lower a arms. Some have them.

https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/sum-770250.pdf

Was thinking the same but that is for coil overs.

 

[Aldo_45030]

I think i will drop it to the ground and go for it.


Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and answers.

HUDEY!

 

[armyadarkness]

Gotta have the wheels on the ground or supported, to install shocks

 

[67ventwindow]

Did you get an aligment card with these kits? Meaning what the new camber setting should be on the car. I know if you do an Shelby/Arning drop on a Cougar/Mustrang the template maker supplys a alignment card (new alignment measurement) to give the alignment tech. So hes not using the original alignment settings.

 

[67ventwindow]

Found what I was looking for. Most had the same recommendations.