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So, whats everyone's problem with the new era GTO? I see so many people/kids trash talking the GTO because its made in Australia, and not a true PMD product, or that it doesn't look retro, or whatever BS line of thinking you can come up with.

IMHO, I think these trendy retro cars are for posers... guys who want the look, but not the hassle of a classic machine. Sure, the modern powerplants are superb, but wheres the craftsmanship? Why are some old names going retro, and others aren't? Wheres the retro Malibu, Impala, and, most especially, the Corvette (no Stingray?)? Nobody complains about them.

All of this negative talk, but nobody wants to step to the Goat on the streets. I've had the car for almost a month now, and drive it at least every other day - even though its not my DD - yet no one wants to challenge. I nail it, and people sit there, breathing through their mouths with a stupid look on their face. So are there actual valid points to everyone's complaints and pissing & moaning, or is everyone just a bunch of trash talking armchair racers?
 

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I think most of us here have felt the same as you Dan. IMO, the trash talking is due to the styling. Its not retro and therefore its not a "real" GTO. I actually stopped talking to an acquaintance because he stated such.
Its due to ignorance and also by many who have not driven the car.

Unfortunately, even Classic GTO owners have segregated their rides from the new era GTO's.

Closed minds and ignorance have created GTO bashers who fail to see the fine automobile the New era GTO really is.
 

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I know the internet is the internet, but hearing people talk negatively about it in person really irritates me. When you come back with legitimate points, they roll their eyes and give some kind of excuse for their opinion, or use circular logic. I know if people got a ride in one, or drove one, their tune would change.

I wave at other Goats when I see them drive by... somebody's got to give some love.
 

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So, whats everyone's problem with the new era GTO? I see so many people/kids trash talking the GTO because its made in Australia, and not a true PMD product, or that it doesn't look retro, or whatever BS line of thinking you can come up with.

IMHO, I think these trendy retro cars are for posers... guys who want the look, but not the hassle of a classic machine. Sure, the modern powerplants are superb, but wheres the craftsmanship? Why are some old names going retro, and others aren't? Wheres the retro Malibu, Impala, and, most especially, the Corvette (no Stingray?)? Nobody complains about them.

All of this negative talk, but nobody wants to step to the Goat on the streets. I've had the car for almost a month now, and drive it at least every other day - even though its not my DD - yet no one wants to challenge. I nail it, and people sit there, breathing through their mouths with a stupid look on their face. So are there actual valid points to everyone's complaints and pissing & moaning, or is everyone just a bunch of trash talking armchair racers?
very well said,poncho dan i couldnt have said it better myself! and the other replies good clarity!:cheers
 

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They can underestimate and dog the new GTO's as much as they want... just means more jaw droppage when you put the hammer down and show em whos boss.
 

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You guys are talking stuff like "nobody wants to step to the Goat on the streets", or "All they see is my Tail", or "put the hammer down and show em whos boss". That's just as immature as the criticism itself. I didn't buy my car to prove anything to anyone especially unimformed people with their baseless criticisms. Let them talk trash; that's what they do. There are so many things in this world that are more important than crap like this.
 

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You guys are talking stuff like "nobody wants to step to the Goat on the streets", or "All they see is my Tail", or "put the hammer down and show em whos boss". That's just as immature as the criticism itself. I didn't buy my car to prove anything to anyone especially unimformed people with their baseless criticisms. Let them talk trash; that's what they do. There are so many things in this world that are more important than crap like this.
:agree Just enjoy your car! People are going to talk junk about any car that they think will threaten the status of thier car. Thats just thier ignorance! There isnt one american muscle car that i wouldnt be proud of owning. I chose the GTO because of the obvious awesomeness of it and the price for the power is very affordable and not everyone has one.
 

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I have never had anyone say anything negative to me about my car. All has been positive and I've owned my car since Mar '05 when I bought it new. Even if someone does say something negative I will just ignore them or tell them it's what I like and that their opinion doesn't mean anything to me. It's that simple. There are few cars out there that I don't seem to care for but why would I approach someone and put down a car that they spent their money on? That's just wrong with a dash of stupidity sprinkled on top.
 

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I was at a local car show this past weekend (witch i took 2nd in new street machine) and I had 4 older guys come and talk to me for about 20min each. All of them love the car and loved the old ones too.
 

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I was getting gas this morning and a kid with a Caviliar pulls up to me. I was MMOB and he says thats a poop man's corvette.

I look at his car and see a body kit that doesn't line up to the seams, black spray painted hood with stick on scoop, fart can bigger then my exhaust, and it looks like he spray painted his fender but the color didn't match.

I laughted at his car. Then told him the GTO and Vette are 2 differnt machines. The GTO is more practicle. A Corvette is a balls out sports car.

He looked confused because we share the same motor...
 

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I had nothing but good comments about my car. I had one guy that saw me get into my car said that he was going to buy a GTO but he chose to buy a Mustang. His reason was because of styling. Today I still get people that give me thumbs up on the road, say nice car in the parking lot or gas station.
 

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I was getting gas this morning and a kid with a Caviliar pulls up to me. I was MMOB and he says thats a poop man's corvette.

I look at his car and see a body kit that doesn't line up to the seams, black spray painted hood with stick on scoop, fart can bigger then my exhaust, and it looks like he spray painted his fender but the color didn't match.

I laughted at his car. Then told him the GTO and Vette are 2 differnt machines. The GTO is more practicle. A Corvette is a balls out sports car.

He looked confused because we share the same motor...


Nice trying to educate this kid. He sounds like he wouldn't know the difference between a GTO and a Toyota Corolla. Just think -- this kid will be voting in the next election.........Sheesh! :cheers
 

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Only hater of the GTO that I have heard is from my car buddy that had a E46 M3 'vert, NSX, FD, and now a 335 'Vert.

He tells me that it's ugly/boring and "who drives a pontiac?"
 

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Only hater of the GTO that I have heard is from my car buddy that had a E46 M3 'vert, NSX, FD, and now a 335 'Vert.

He tells me that it's ugly/boring and "who drives a pontiac?"
Ill tell ya who drives a Pontiac. Someone who doesn't collect Fan-Boy cars.
 

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I have to argue the point of the Corvette, you can tell and see design cues from the cars of the 60's (C2). the Z06 was used back in 1963, the waterfall on the convertibles is retro etc.
 
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